Hesi Exit Test - page 13
Hello fellow educators....I am dealing with a dilema which I have no control over as I am a staff member, not administration, but it is just eating away at my concious. My community college uses the... Read More
May 8, '09Occupation: student and Mother From: US ; Joined: May '09; Posts: 21; Likes: 5Quote from zuku26I myself am a CCC nursing student taking HESI on Mother's day (of all days) May 10 2009.
For us current students, are presence at that rally is bad for us. We have everything to lose by being there. I could just imagine showing up the day of HESI and my name "some how" not being on the list eligible to sit for HESI, simply because of a Rally.
I completly agree that HESI has no business being an exit exam for CCC, but I'm not willing to throw myself under the bus until I have my License in hand. I will be the first and loudest one protesting this test after I pass NCLEX. What it's really going to take is a former student with our same views infiltrating CCC and moving up the ranks to be in the power to make that choice!! Who knows that my be me. Until then study your asses off for that test!!!! There is too much at stake to waste time at a rally. Those hours can be in a HESI book, let the others that have already passed (or failed) hold the fight while we do the test!!
Good Luck this sunday!!!!
May 8, '09Joined: Dec '04; Posts: 15Thank you!! I'm confident that I or my fellow students will succeed!! Without a doubt we will have a 100% pass rate!!
May 10, '09Joined: May '09; Posts: 3I am not a big fan of the Hesi every semester we get a Hesi as our final but the first 2 semester they only take the grade from it on the third semester we have to get an 850 or better. Once you are done with the whole nursing program you are allowed to take the hesi 3 times and if you fail all those 3 times you are out of the program and are not allowed to ake the NCLEX test.
that is putting sooo much stress on us as it is the program is not easy but making us worry wants to make me cry.
May 10, '09Occupation: nursing education/ICU Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in ICU ; Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 644; Likes: 262RC2007 states, "hold just because of failing HESI, which was not even part of the curriculum to begin with!"
This is not true. I recently found out that a college's HESI test is individually based off of each schools curriculum from the syllabi sent to them. While I do understand the dilemma for many of you in school, success with HESI has been linked to success with NCLEX-RN in the research.
Many of you do not understand the importance of NCLEX passing rates for schools. Clinical contracts are very limited these days and often depend on NCLEX passing rates. The same goes for accreditation.
I have heard gripes about too stringent admission criteria into nursing school as well.
However, just wanting to bea nurse, and even paying for the education does not mean someone deserves to be a nurse. Think about you family member in the hospital and go from there....
May 10, '09Joined: May '09; Posts: 3I understand where you are coming from Dorimar but also thinking about it a test or a grade should not have to decide on how good of a nurse you are or will be. I can have the best grades in class and do excellent work with my patients during clinical time and by not passing the Hesi it will not let me be a nurse and help other and than we wonder why there are not enough nurses out there.
May 11, '09Joined: Dec '04; Posts: 15first off the hesi mid-curricular test is based off thesyllabus, the exit is a test that hesi designs. i agree with hesi being used, but in the way that my school uses it. i've seen some schools factor into there final grade, that's a much batter approach. the student gets the info needed out of hesi and still is able to move on with graduation, and the much easier nclex. the hesi people taught us a bs 3 day review before hesi and they stated that the hesi exit is designed to be 10x harder then nclex to guarantee a passing score. at my school if you don't pass hesi you don't graduate reguardless of how well you did in the program.
with that said,
i scored an 1105 of hesi yesterday!!!!!!
the highest in my class
we lost 6 out of 40 which really isn't that bad a fail rate. i'm 100% confident that they will pick it up on the 2nd attempt.
May 12, '09Occupation: nursing education/ICU Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in ICU ; Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 644; Likes: 262excellent!!! you should be very proud!
May 16, '09Occupation: Educator & Practicing NP Specialty: 35 year(s) of experience in Women's Health, OB, Peds, Nursing Ed. ; Joined: May '09; Posts: 5What we are doing at our college beginning next August is:
Will give our ADN student's the Customized Hesi at the end of the 1st & 3rd semester and the standardized Hesi at the end of the 2nd and 4th semester. They must score an 850 for progression at the end of the 2nd and 4th semester. If they don't they must remediate and retest. We will test them early so they have about 4 weeks to remediate and retest. At the end of the 1st and 3rd semester they will get the equivalent test score to the score they make on the Hesi added into their other test scores. It will count the same as any other test.
We have a career-ladder program that is integrated not blocked.
Until we gave a value to Hesi or incentive for the 850, students did not take it seriously. We had been using it a little differently by giving them a percentage point for the score they received on the HESI and next Fall we will be using it as described above. Already we have seen improvements in the test scores over previous years. Our 1st year students just took the Hesi. About half need to remediate and retest, however many of them have scored in the low 800's. This time there is no consequence should they not make the 850 as long as their GPA equals 80 % or higher. But already we are seeing the students seeing the importance of doing well on the HESI.
Our students can test for their LPN at the completion of their first year so doing well on the HESI is important before the 4th semester.
May 16, '09Joined: May '08; Posts: 288; Likes: 274after reading this thread, i was sooooo scared of the hesi. so, i have worked very hard this year, not just to pass my tests, but to deeply understand all the nursing concepts throughout my program. i was also worried about being able to pass hesi because of getting mainly bs in our program. i have been using the hesi prep book as a study guide throughout the year, making sure that i understand all the main concepts presented in each area.
i took hesi this week, being required to get an 850 to progress on to graduation from 1st year and go to 2nd year of my 2 year rn program. [font=fixedsys] i scored in the 95th percentile. i thought that the test was going to be much harder than it was. i was pleasantly surprised.
i still have areas that i need to work on, as a few of my areas scored under 850, but those will be remedied in short order. i was also shocked to see some of my smart classmates leave the testing room with unhappy faces.... but as far as i know, only about 20% of our class has to re-test to pass.
i really have to tell you though. my ego has really taken a beating in nursing school, but the hesi wound up being very very good for me. i know that i'll pass my nclex-pn easily.
May 16, '09Occupation: Educator & Practicing NP Specialty: 35 year(s) of experience in Women's Health, OB, Peds, Nursing Ed. ; Joined: May '09; Posts: 5Congratulations!
I am happy to read that some students have found errors in the Hesi, as I will keep that in mind should any of our students have problems.
The bottom line: we need students to be able to pass the NCLEX as all their money will be lost if they cannot pass "that test".
May 16, '09Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 4; Likes: 2So Cochise is requiring students to pass the Hesi now?! I'm so glad that it wasn't required when I graduated... I don't remember what my score was, I guess I didn't take it seriously!, but I did do excellent in my studies and passed my NCLEX at 75 questions. I would have been so upset if I wasn't allowed to graduate because I didn't pass a great "testing tool", but money-driven, college pass-rate protecting Hesi exam! Use the Hesi as a tool, or maybe even factor it into a grade so it's taken seriously if you must, but let the NCLEX do what it's supposed to do, not the Hesi!
May 16, '09Occupation: student and Mother From: US ; Joined: May '09; Posts: 21; Likes: 5RC2007 - a community college in Illinois
May 17, '09Joined: May '09; Posts: 5the community college i attend also uses the hesi to determine pass or fail. they also have the insane policy ( i assume it is state wide) that if you withdraw or fail a class twice you are out of the program for 2 years, can not apply to any nursing program in the state in that time. so if you fail the hesi and you previously failed or with drew from a class sometime in the past 2 long years of your life you are out for 2 years and have to restart the program from the first semester. I am in that situation now only i didnt make it to the end and take the hesi. i am not going to retake classes i already passed and paid for. they are suppose to review this policy this summer and possibly do away with the hesi or only use it for a guide for the students. if they do not change this policy and the hesi test i will be staying at this college only to get my prereqs for my BSN because the tutition is cheaper and then transefer to a 4 yr university. the hesi test is for the college to make money off of . I also am fed up with the teachers they get side tracked during thier lecture and start telling stories from thier nursing career or about getting drunk and i am sitting there waiting for the lesson... that are simply power points and almost word for word from the book but that is a whole new thread.............