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I am applying for the 2014 WEA program at HCC. Any info/tips, etc. that you can provide would be much appreciated.

I have completed all pre-reqs except A&P 2, which I am taking this spring. Took the TEAS-V yesterday. I have a bachelor's degree in psychology and a Master's degree in School Psychology. I'm not sure what my chances will be for acceptance into the WEA program, but would love to hear from anyone currently in the program or also applying.

Thanks so much for your time,

Katie

We are just finishing up our first semester. It's crazy how fast the program goes! After this we will be 1/4 done!

We have class two days a week (Monday and Tuesday); one day is from 3-9:30 and the other is 6:30-9:30, then we have clinical on Saturday and Sunday (8 hour days). First semester is intense because you have a lab portion, so essentially it's like 3 different classes: lab, theory, and clinical. I work full-time and am doing just fine! Clinical for the first semester is assisted living/long term care/acute care- you kind of get eased into everything.

Next semester we will have class Monday/Thursday, and then our clinical will be alternating between Mental Health and MedSurg. We have been told (still waiting on the schedule though) that clinical next semester will be 12 hours on just Saturday (sometimes Sunday).

I really like the program- you definitely get close to those in the program with you since yuo spend so much time with them. The biggest thing I remember them telling us is that the compeition is over (for now), so no need to compete with your classmates, use each other as resources- and it's so true! I think most of us bring a different way of thinking to the table and it really helps! Also you will have to learn to be flexible. The only real downside of the program is that they will sometimes throw stuff at you (lab hours, papers, change in schedules, etc) with minimal notice, and you just have to learn to deal, but flexibility is good to learn now anyways!

Good luck!

Thank you so much for all the information--makes me feel a little more prepared. Did you get in on the first try? How was your TEAS score? You said for the first semester one day is from 3-9:30--is that one class?? How many people are in your class? How does the clinical work-do you all go as one big group? Sorry for all the questions!!!

Yes, I did get in the first time. I got a 77.3% on the TEAS but I have my Bachelor's already so I got an extra point for that.

There were 24 people in our class...but one person dropped so we only have 23. Lab for us was either Monday or Tuesday (1/2 each day) from 3-6, and then lecture is from 6:30-9:30 on Monday and Tuesday. Second semester there aren't any big labs like that, so it's a 1 credit class (contemporary issues in nursing), and 2 4 credit classes (MedSurg 1 and Mental Health). For clinical (at least for first semester) there are 3 clinical groups (with 8 students in each and one clinical instructor). Each group is assigned to a different facility or floor, and you have different assignments for each day!

Don't apologize- I had a million plus questions before I started

Thank you so much!!! Are the majority of the people in the class older? I am 37 and this is a career change for me. What kinds of things do you learn and do in the first semester?

About 2/3 of the class is 24+, who either already have a degree in something else or are doing through a career change.

You learn/do a lot first semester- it's Fundamentals, so it's pretty much the basics of everything. It's definitely intense learning (like 2 chapters a day sometimes, and a test every other week), but it's pretty interesting. In lab you learn the basic skills- giving meds, physical assessment, vitals, catheters, injections, PEG/NG tubes, wound care, etc.

So how long does the first semester last? Do you have any breaks in between semesters at all? How much of the A & P II and Microbiology am I going to need to really know for that?

It's just over 12 weeks (5/19- 8/5)...we have just about a month break (8/6-9/4) before fall semester starts. We go in the fall from 9/4-12/15ish (not sure the exact date), then have about another month long break until spring semester which is from End of Jan-Mid May, then Summer session (our last session) starts end of May until mid Aug.

A&P (I and II) is good just for knowing basic body parts/functions....I took Micro right before starting the nursing program (literally finished like 3 days before)...and the only thing we really talk about that's micro related is spores haha.

Thank you so much for all of your information!!! I think that's all the questions I have for now--but you really helped me get a better understanding of the program. Good luck to you!!!!

Hi there,

Just getting a few minutes to chime in along with Rachel. I should be working on a paper that's due this weekend, but that can wait a few more minutes haha. I just wanted to say please feel free to ask any questions you have along the way. I think we all had so many questions and it's nice to hear from people who are currently in the program.

I am 35 and also work full time (for HCPS, so I do get summers off), and have 3 young kids. So, while many people told me that it's going to be too hard to manage all of that plus nursing school, I am finding that it's definitely manageable. Challenging at times, yes, but manageable. You will find that they (i.e., the dean, some other students, etc) "discourage" working full time while in school, but for most of us, that's just not really an option....you know, with mortgages to pay, kids to feed, tuition, etc... Some people are married, some are single, some are parents, some are not, most live on their own, some live with their parents. Some people are changing careers, and others are beginning the career world with nursing. It's a great mixture of perspectives and experiences. So, as Rachel said, we work together and we support each other and we get it done with hard work. Plus, everyone is just really motivated to do well, and we are used to managing our time and breaking things down in order to make it work. I have found that I have needed to reduce or eliminate some things to make nursing school a priority... so I can't work 2 jobs like I used to. I didn't sign my kids up for a bunch of fall sports that will be difficult to manage with my class schedule. I don't go out with my friends as much. I carve out time for studying most days of the week. But I do build in time to take a break from school, saving at least one day a week where I don't do any school work. I am more productive overall with that approach and so I don't burn out. Everyone finds what works for them.

I think you will find that taking A&P and Micro so recently before the program is helpful, but you won't use all of it right away (some of it, you'll never use). I took Micro last summer, A&P 1 in fall and A&P 2 in spring, finishing up the spring semester like Rachel, just a week before Nursing school began. Those Bio classes do give you a good foundation for the body parts and processes and when you get to nursing, you start to apply them in a way that makes more sense b/c you have learned the basics (an example is the relationships b/t heart rate and blood pressure and fluid volume, etc. Or talking about neutrophils in Micro and how they work is applied to understanding wounds and infections, specifically purulent drainage (i.e, pus). But as for knowing ridiculous stuff like the specific steps of the Kreb's cycle or stuff about mRNA and transcription and all that craziness, do not worry too much about that for nursing school application, unless you want to go further into those fields like genetics or research or whatever. Just learn it for your classes and do well there, and you will be fine.

I can't believe how much we've learned in the past 2 months. I absolutely love it. And that's coming from someone who thought I'd never ever go back to school again. As Rachel said, we have gotten really close as a group, and you quickly become friends with your clinical group especially, but really, with everyone. I agree that the program is designed, as they said in orientation, for it to not be competitive b/t students once you get in. It's super supportive and they genuinely want everyone to do well while certainly holding us accountable for mastering the skills taught.

As for TEAS, I think I got somewhere in the mid-70's overall. This was my first and only program that I applied to, and I wasn't sure what my chances were with getting in, but I was told that most WEA students have somewhere around 20 points, give or take, on the criteria point sheet. I think I had 20 points without the A&P 2 class points (b/c they don't apply points for classes you haven't completed as of application deadline).

Sorry this is so long. As we said, keep asking questions as they come up.

Are you taking your A&P and Micro classes at HCC? Who are your instructors?

Katie

Wow-thank you both for such good information!! I feel like I have been kind of going at this blind until now. I haven't been able to attend any of the nursing seminars, although I hope to attend one in the fall if they have it. I am taking A&P II with Dr. Latimer at night and then will be taking Micro with Longdo. The A&P summer class has been pretty intense, having tests every other week and having only a week or so to learn a bunch of info, but I'm doing okay with it. I should have at least 23-24 points by the time I apply, if I can get an A in the next 2 classes. I just signed up to take the TEAS test, but am not really stressing over it since it seems that most people are only earning 1 point for that anyways. I am lucky because I work from home and have for the last 11 years, so even though I have to work certain hours, I still have more flexibility then if I worked outside the home. Plus no travel time, so I can get to classes on time. It's good that you get a little break in between semesters, to breathe again, I guess! I am most worried about the clinical hours on the weekends and how it will interfere with my family time. I have 2 boys ages 8 and 11, and they already miss me when I go to school at night!! Do you have clinicals every Saturday and Sunday? Are some semesters less clinical hours? How early did you find out that you were accepted into the WEA program?

I completely understand what you mean about worrying about clinical hours and how it will impact family time. My girls are 3, 6, and 8, and it's been a challenge for them and for me to be in school the past year and a half. The mom guilt never goes away, I guess, but I keep telling them that it will be much better once I become a nurse and I can work fewer days and sometimes work while they are sleeping, etc. And of course, eventually not adding classes at night will help...just have to get the BSN completer courses done. I try to include them in what I'm learning though, so they are fascinated most of the time and grossed out sometimes too. :) For Fundamentals, a major skill we learn is a nursing physical assessment. So, my kids love to be my "patient" and let me take their blood pressure, pulse, etc and go through the physical assessment with them over and over. Anyway, clinicals this first semester are both Sat. and Sun. every weekend from 7:30-3:30 in the assisted living and long term care settings, and 7:00-3:30 in acute care (hospital). We did have off for July 4 weekend, and that was a nice mid-semester break for everyone to catch their breath and relax a bit for a couple days. It is hard to not have as much family time on weekends, but we are keeping it in perspective, knowing that it's temporary.

For fall semester, we are being told that most weekends, we will have clinicals for one of the days, either Sat. or Sun., but the hours may be longer for that day. I can let you know for sure once we get to fall semester and see how the schedule is laid out. I don't know about the following semesters. WEA is obviously accelerated, so while it's intense, the good news is, each month is a step toward completion. 15 months will fly by...

Our applications were due mid Feb., and I got the call the last week of March about being accepted. So, there's not much time to figure out financial aid if you haven't done that by that point. I wish I'd known more about financial aid process, but basically, just make sure (if you haven't already) that you've done your FAFSA and apply for any loans and scholarships as early as possible- check with the financial aid office about specific deadlines and timelines so you know ahead of time. By the time you get accepted, you really only have about 6-7 weeks before the semester begins. And you will be spending lots of money on uniforms, books, tuition, CPR class, etc at the outset. Tuition for first semester (summer) was around $1200 and books were around $350-$500 depending on where you buy them. Tuition for 2nd semester is comparable.

So you are planning on getting your BSN right after your AA? How are you doing that? I know that its probably the best thing for me to do, but I don't know if I am going to go for my BSN, at least not right away. I know that will limit my job opportunities but there are still many other nursing jobs that don't require it, or will help pay for it. I've worked for a health insurance company for the last 17 years and so am pretty familiar with medical terminology, treatment plan, diagnosis's and procedures--at least from a financial point of view. I might try to find something that I can incorporate my insurance knowledge along with my RN. I am just so ready to be done with these stupid pre-requisites!! I feel like I've been doing them forever and I just want to start the program and get going! I really appreciate all your information, you have answered so many questions of mine and being that you are one step ahead of me, really helps me prepare!

You said you work for HCPS-are you a teacher? What school--my kids go to Forest Lakes and one is starting middle school at Fallston this year.

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