Will I get in trouble ? ? ? - page 8

Hello, I am a 2nd yr nursing student, I graduate in May. I had an OR observation yesterday and was able to watch an endo lap chole. I may add that I was very excited as my goal is to become an OR... Read More

  1. by   Esme12
    Quote from Congababe13
    Thank you so much Shorty for pointing out what everyone else on this thread has apparently missed - the lack of judgement, the lack of common sense, blah, blah, blah !

    I hope all of those who have left the harsh & unforgiving comments are able to go through their whole career as a nurse and/or student without making A SINGLE MISTAKE

    If you are not so lucky , I surely hope you are at the mercy of someone more understanding & forgiving than yourself . . .
    I have made mistakes, thank goodness they have never hurt anyone. I am not perfect...but I try to be. But there are also things I have NEVER done or never would do.....just things that are not done. You aren't going to like what I say but........Nursing isn't all about your excitement it's about the patient, their care, and privacy. It's about the patients rights. It really isn't about you.

    Nursing is an unforgiving profession. One mistake can end your career. One moment of inattention/indiscretion and everything you have worked for is gone forever. The is the reality of being a nurse. All the remorse in the world may not change that one indiscretion. I don't think anyone is being unnecessarily harsh.....I think they need you to see that you made a grave mistake and are very lucky, very lucky that your mistake was forgiven. There isn't much in nursing that is forgiven. You are VERY LUCKY. Be humble. Count your blessings.

    Even nurses who have been GREAT nurses a long time make mistakes that are not forgiven.....

    Nurse's suicide highlights twin tragedies of medical errors
    Kimberly Hiatt killed herself after overdosing a baby, revealing the anguish of caregivers who make a mistake.


    You were very lucky they let you back in the program......I wish you every success.
  2. by   Kimynurse
    I'm glad it is working out
    I know you learned a lot that day
    Good luck

    “When you know better you do better.”
    ― Maya Angelou
  3. by   Shorty11
    I wanted to apologize to the OP. Perhaps by the time I responded it was unnecessary for me to reiterate what other posters had already said. I didn't mean to come off as harsh.. just concerned for the gravity of the situation. Take the fortunate outcome of your situation as a sign that this is what you are supposed to do. Best of luck!
  4. by   ProfRN4
    I know much of what I am thiking has been said already, so I'll just highlight 2 points that I didn't notice (maybe it was already brought up).

    1) You mentioned that your CI was not with you. You also mentioned that you are well aware that you are not to have your phone on you during a regular clinical, where your CI is overseeing you. I feel this sense of "she wasn't there, so the rules didn't apply." Kind of like running a red light where there is no camera or cop at the intersection. The rules still apply, whether or not he/she is present. Actually, there is a higher standard the student must uphold when they are alone. This is why I personally, do not like sending my students on observational experiences. I have no idea what they are doing!

    2) does your phone have an "off" switch?

    and finally (I know I said 2 points, but here's another thought): you seemed to have redeemed yourself, in the eyes of the school/administration. However, with the good deed/learning experience that stemmed from this, you have a) basically revealed yourself to all, and b) have set the example (with the schools' permission) that you CAN get away with breaking the rules. I completely understand that students respond more to real life stories, where there are actual consequences. But I think it also sends a message that there are exceptions (or loopholes) for every rule.
  5. by   Feistn
    In my program, the first lecture we had was on HIPAA violations. We have had to be very careful about it. If you DO use your phone for some reason (Davis drug guide app, watch with second hand), you need to CHECK WITH YOUR INSTRUCTOR FIRST. Hospitals don't even let their staff have their phones on their person. This showed extremely poor judgment. Would you want someone taking a picture of your surgery, even if you were unidentified. Our program made it clear that the biggest thing people are called for is HIPAA violations. As we've learned, oftentimes it is less about the actual harm than how it can be perceived. You totally could have posted that on FB or whatever, and it would have been a HUGE scandal for the hospital. This is no joke. They get sued for this, and the news stations would love nothing more than to have a juicy, salacious story about a breach of privacy.

    If I were you, I would go in with all of the information they've taught you about HIPAA, professional boundaries and outline exactly how your actions went against school policy, and then I would say this experience provided you with a learning experience that ensures you will NEVER be so careless about patient privacy again, and that in your practice, you will not carry your cell phone on your person during a shift.
  6. by   NightNerd
    I'm late to this thread, but just wanted to say that I thought you handled everything very well and am so glad you're back in! Best of luck in the next semester!
  7. by   grpman
    We have had people kicked out of the program for cell phone related issues (none of which were cheating) while inside the school building... just to put things in perspective.

    Be prepared for the worst, but I hope you have a good outcome.