Failed 2nd Year Patho Course of BScN

snowyowl, BSN · Sep 8, 2011

If you have already gotten this far in the RN program, I would recommend sticking with it. Patho, micro and A&P are all difficult courses which people end up having to re-do sometimes. There is nothing to be ashamed of, don't tell it shatter your confidence. I found 3rd and 4th of the RN program much easier because I had a greater understanding of the expectations. After first year I wanted to drop out, but I am so glad I didn't!

27400 · Sep 8, 2011

I think RPNs have to take some sort of patho too. Give it a second go and really put all your effort in doing your best. Invest in study groups and use all your available resources. Go to class, take notes. A lot of universities/colleges have resources to help you see what type of learner you are, what studying strategies might help you, note taking strategies, etc.

Here's a tip, if you're provided slides bring the slides to your class and take notes while the instructor talks about the topic. Then go home use the slides and read the text book and make notes on the same slide using a different coloured pen. That's what I* did in nursing school. I don't know if it's going to work for you but it worked for me.

This is coming from someone who didn't do so hot in first year but aced all other years with hard work and dedication.

Canuck · Sep 8, 2011

Thanks for the advice and encouragement, but I am out of the BScN program...have failed the supplemental summer make-up course as well (by a very small margin). Would like to hear from anyone who crossed over from the RN program to an RPN program.... Thanks

27400 · Sep 8, 2011

Hi, I'm sorry you were not successful in the supplemental summer make up course but the RPNs have to take patho as well. I don't know how to say this but maybe taking a break from all that is related to nursing would be good for you to reflect on whether nursing is REALLY something you want to pursue. It's unfortunate that you did not pass twice but patho is something that ALL nurses need to pass in order to graduate and practice.

https://www.senecac.on.ca:443/ce/programs/practical_nurse_diploma.html **scroll all the way down to see the courses they have to take**

Anyway good luck with everything whichever path you pursue.

Canuck · Sep 8, 2011

Of course I know that patho is part of the RPN program as well....let's not kid ourselves! It is easier though...this I have from reliable sources, not as in depth. RPNs look after patients with predictable outcomes, not as complex as RNs. I have a passion for nursing and I'm going to stick with it. Thanks for your counselling.

Fiona59 · Sep 8, 2011

Of course I know that patho is part of the RPN program as well....let's not kid ourselves! It is easier though...this I have from reliable sources, not as in depth. RPNs look after patients with predictable outcomes, not as complex as RNs. I have a passion for nursing and I'm going to stick with it. Thanks for your counselling.

The PN designation isn't a consolation prize for those who can't make it through the degree. While our course work isn't as "indepth" as the RN's it's still quite intense. For some people it's "easier" but not for everyone.

It's only in theory that we care for those with "predicatable outcomes". I've managed patients that technically should have belonged to an RN but our nurse manager chose not to assign to RNs because of their level of competence.

LPNs care for fresh out the ICU patients and those waiting for ICU beds, our nursing is not easier.

Why do you say you have a passion for nursing? Have you worked in the field in any way?

27400 · Sep 8, 2011

By all means stick with it. Good for you. I'm just saying that it's something to consider due to the dire circumstances you are presented with.

Do your best and keep pushing forward.

snowyowl, BSN · Sep 8, 2011

I don't think you will be able to find a specific RN to RPN bridging program. You should perhaps try contacting the college you would like to attend specifically to see what they can do for you on an individual basis.

joanna73, BSN, RN · Sep 9, 2011

Patho is patho, regardless if you're an RPN or an RN. All nurses need to have a good grasp of patho, otherwise, you won't be very effective at your work. Some may disagree, but the crux of nursing IS patho. Yes, we learn many other things, but anatomy, disease processes, and meds is the foundation for nursing.

I would re-evaluate your study habits and continue in the program. The reality is, you will find it a challenge to pass either Board exam if you don't grasp the basics. Not to mention, when you're working as a nurse and your patient is rapidly going downhill, you need to understand why in order to intervene.

joanna73, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2011

I just re-read your post, OP. It makes no logical sense that you would want to pursue the RPN because they deal with less predictable outcomes. That isn't true first of all, secondly, that's insulting to many RPNs. You're effectively saying that their role is easier, less than. Either way, you must apply yourself, or think about another career.