what is expected of a trainee by this time?

hrtprncss · Sep 8, 2005

Yes if she's observing you, it's good practice.

AMARTIN1 · Sep 8, 2005

Is it okay for a trainee to do all documentations/charting, assist docs and follow thru with their orders, prepare and admin meds, interact with patients (ranging from 4 to 7 depending on new admissions nd discharges) on their own as a test from your precetor (while she observes you) on the 11th day of clinical immersion in a medical surgical ward, day or night shift? Just would like to know. Thanks!

Definitely!!!! That is the best way to learn, as long as she's watching you and is available if you need her. :)

dlhommer · Sep 8, 2005

yes, doing everything with someone to ask for guidance is the best way to learn to manage everything. you learn when things need to get done and how to prioritize your time. I have been a nurse since June and that is the way they trained me too.

grinnurse, RN · Sep 8, 2005

Is it okay for a trainee to do all documentations/charting, assist docs and follow thru with their orders, prepare and admin meds, interact with patients (ranging from 4 to 7 depending on new admissions nd discharges) on their own as a test from your precetor (while she observes you) on the 11th day of clinical immersion in a medical surgical ward, day or night shift? Just would like to know. Thanks!

Sounds like a good plan to me as long as preceptor is there to answer any questions and all. I added a pt every week I oriented until I was finished and every week I gained more responsibility until eventually the preceptor was only shadowing me by week 5 which was approximately the same amount of days that you mentioned.

NewLPNgrad · Sep 9, 2005

Hi, I am still concidered a new nurse. I Just graduated in may and passed my boareds in june. I started out as a CNA until I got my nursing license at the nursing home I am currently at. The problem is they gave me only 4 days of training on the hardest floor and then kept me there at the full time 3-11 nurse. Now it seems like they expect me to know evreything. I never really had a preceptor, and I was NEVER shown any policy or procedures. I was never taught how to do there paperwork or other stuff. I have messed things up and the everyone comes down on me like I am some experienced nurse and I should know all of this stuff. I am still learning and making mistakes, but not big ones anymore. I get written up for just about everything I do. They either don't want to listen or hear my explanation. The ADON is a new RN her self and treats everyone like dog u know what! Everytime I ask a question I get different answers from everyone and then what ever I do is wrong. I sometimes feel like I am really stupid and like I didnt' learn anything in school. I sometimes wonder if the schooling was a big waste of money. I think to myself that I am a lousy nurse. PLEASE HELP! NEED ADVISE!!

perfectbluebuildings, BSN, RN · Sep 12, 2005

Hi, I am still concidered a new nurse. I Just graduated in may and passed my boareds in june. I started out as a CNA until I got my nursing license at the nursing home I am currently at. The problem is they gave me only 4 days of training on the hardest floor and then kept me there at the full time 3-11 nurse. Now it seems like they expect me to know evreything. I never really had a preceptor, and I was NEVER shown any policy or procedures. I was never taught how to do there paperwork or other stuff. I have messed things up and the everyone comes down on me like I am some experienced nurse and I should know all of this stuff. I am still learning and making mistakes, but not big ones anymore. I get written up for just about everything I do. They either don't want to listen or hear my explanation. The ADON is a new RN her self and treats everyone like dog u know what! Everytime I ask a question I get different answers from everyone and then what ever I do is wrong. I sometimes feel like I am really stupid and like I didnt' learn anything in school. I sometimes wonder if the schooling was a big waste of money. I think to myself that I am a lousy nurse. PLEASE HELP! NEED ADVISE!!

Sounds like you need a new job- it is not your fault not knowing anything with minimal training. Find somewhere that values your skills and is willing to train you. I have been orienting for several weeks now and there are still lots of things I am quite unsure about or just plain don't know. I hope you are able to find something better or find a mentor/someone to talk with about the situation at your job right now!

Daytonite, BSN, RN · Sep 12, 2005

Your schooling was not a big waste of money. Education is never wasted. It was probably a mistake to take a position as a licensed nurse in a facility where you were a CNA. The ADON doesn't sound very helpful. Unfortunately, this happens far too often in nursing homes. I've worked in a number of nursing homes over the years and have seen this happen to others. If no one comes to your aid and is kind of taking an interest in how you are progressing, my advice for you is to start looking around for another nursing home to work in and plan on leaving this one; one that will promise to give you a chance to orient to your new role as an LPN and charge nurse. This facility has done the equivalent of throwing you into the water and seems to be watching if you sink or swim. What kind of treatment is that? I would leave there before you make a serious error that could put your license into jeopardy or they fire you.