What's up with this practice? - page 2
I'm sorry I'm not one to usually complain about what kind of patients come to the ED cuz gee it's job security right? But lately--over the past several months our drunk load has gone out of this... Read More
Sep 4, '02Occupation: ER RN Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 112; Likes: 3It seems as though every state has them...here, the police PC them, bring them to us, and if the BAC is over .3 even detox won't take them. Since I work day shift we can usually give them a banana bag and shuffle them out pretty soon, either to detox or jail. And yes MollyJ, ever since that little incident with one of the drunks, the police are much less likely to take them to jail than they are to bring them to us...The only thing we have more of than drunks...are drug seekers...They are the backbone of my job security...
Sep 4, '02Occupation: rn - er Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 323; Likes: 147here's a good question.....if the hospital has a tresspass/restraining order against a frequent flyer drunk....and that drunk comes to the er and signs in, is it an emtala violation to not see him in the er? do we just call the police and have him hauled off? just wondering!
Sep 5, '02Occupation: ER RN Specialty: ER,ICU,L&D,OR,ETC ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 5,588; Likes: 566Howdy yall
from deep in the heat of texas
ITS A BIG VIOLATION
DOO WAH DITTY
Sep 5, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: correctional, psych, ICU, CCU, ER ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 620; Likes: 85Well, as the jail nurse, I can refuse to keep any inmate that is "flat". We are trying to get evenybody to realize that ETOH is not a crime, it is a disease. And the biggest liability to the jail are flat drunks who aspirate and die. 95% of incustody deaths are alcohol related, which translates into BIG $$$ for the city. If they can't walk, they don't stay, I don't care WHO they are, (local transient or public figure)
We have also found that BA doesn't mean too much in SOME of our regulars. I had one with a BA <.4 who was walking and talking rationally., A+Ox4. !!!!!!!!!!
I don't have the facilities to keep and monitor them, the supplies to treat them.
But I like the idea of a treatment facility, where they could be house, treated, sobered up, showered and released.
Maybe we could pool our resources and open one. Ya know, like a short stay, day surgery center?? High pay for nurses, the reimbursement could be amazing, nobody wants them, but the liability would be high.