Need help with article about EMS - page 3
Hello to everyone! I am currently attempting to co-write an article for a national publication in regards to Problems in EMS. I am both a ER- RN for over 18 years and a field Paramedic. I believe... Read More
Jan 6, '07Occupation: ER Nurse - Pedi and Adult Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience in Tele, ICU, ER ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 502; Likes: 95I have to say our Fire Rescue folks (the ALS folks) are pretty good, have solid protocols, and know how to use them.
I have a big thank you for a few tonite, who brought in an old man, seriously SOB, and I was on my own with him. They hung around, helped me get in monitored, hooked up and even helped me turn the guy so I could change his filled diaper (they'd given 20 of Lasix enroute). They didn't have to do that, could have given report and run, but I appreciated the few extra minutes they gave me and the patient, since our ER techs were tied up.
One thing I'd like to see is slightly better education for our BLS folks, especially in the area of medications. Just maybe a familiarization course of common meds. They always are amazed that I can pretty much sum up the patient's medical history from their med list. A little more info might give them more insight into what's up with the patient, even if BLS doesn't treat with meds.
Jan 6, '07Occupation: Long term care nurse and loving it Specialty: Geriatrics and emergency medicine ; Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 105; Likes: 122Having been a volley EMT for over 25 years as well as an LPN, has been such a wonderful (at times)experience for me. I have had the opportunity to see things from both sides of the fence. Have had to perform CPR on a 6 month old who mom found unresponsive in his car seat while driving to the market. Turns out it was a congenital undected heart defect. I have crawled into the back of a dark, overturned car, reeking of ETOH and gas and vomit, only to find it was one of our own EMT's as the patient. Trying to control my own emotions, and comfort him as the firefighters were trying to use the jaws of life to free him. I sat in the back of an ambulance with a 88 year old female, just holding her hand, talking about anything to keep her concious till we make it to the hospital.
Working as an LPN in LTCF all of my nursing years (13) You will find that the thing that we EMT's appreciate is a good besdie report to the EMT's so that they can relay it to the ED staff. But, one thing I can not get, why do so many nursing homes wait 2 or 3 days after a serious fall to send them for eval at the ED????? Too busy, too much paperwork, ahh she is just old and they get that way. I think not!! They deserve dignity and care as well as anyone, maybe even more. If ya need any info, just write back and I'll help out as much as possible
Jan 6, '07Occupation: Pedi RN Joined: Sep '00; Posts: 2,728; Likes: 109if your article includes how to improve communication between nurses and EMT-P's I would add that our hospital provides CE for pre-hospital personnel EVERY MONTH. We do it in conjuction with the Fire Dept's educators. This has increased communication and helped the two disciplines to appreciate one another's expertise.
Jan 6, '07Occupation: RN, business owner Specialty: ED ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 61; Likes: 15I'm an EMT-B on my way to nursing school and I can tell you one frustrating thing I deal with over and over. When I arrive to the ER with a PT the nurses don't want to hear anything, not a PT report, not anything we saw on scene (medical) or any info on MOI. I would figure it would be helpfull to hear the car was destroyed or just banged up, or the ladder was 20 ft high and not a step ladder. I do realize there are those unkept EMTs that roll into your ERs with f*$K Bush shirt and tell you nothing, but those of us vollys in uniform, well groomed, and good at thier jobs hate being discounted like boyscouts with a merit badge for applying cling. I am working to become a flight nurse and I know I have to pass through an ER to get there, I won't discount my EMTs until they prove thier tools. As far as the comments on meds I agree we should get more training on that, my squad makes a point to explain how meds match up to conditions to our new personel, makes things on scene quicker. My point is some of us take our jobs very seriously and are very good at it (I cancle medics all the time unless I am in way over my head) let us give you the report we just spent 15 min obtaining. It's not easy getting a pressure going 60 over bumby roads but we do let us report it. I have actually been pushed aside by a very young pompus nurse while trying to give a report, and barked at to make a bed for my unstable PT like I worked for her. Makes your efforts to keep the PT stable seem meaningless. Just wanted to share form the other side of the fence.