Dover Business School (LPN Program)

elena121 · Jan 26, 2008

Hi, I am currently searching for a good nursing program to enter and Dover is close to me. I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with the above mentioned school? The tuition is 21,000.00 for the 2008 year and it is a 15 month program. I would like to have some information on this school before I attempt to take the entrance exam. I looked on the NJ State Board of Nursing website at the NCLEX passing rate, but the Dover Business School was not listed. Any information would be greatly appreciated.:innerconf:innerconf

this program last year used to be 15.000.

I went there, Clifton , and pased the placement exam with 87 % in Math and English..

In the interview she started to ask me , do you have kids?? Who will look at your kids?? Do you have car??Are you working?? Why you want to be a nurse??Where you see your self in 5 years?? and other question like these..

I felt that Iam interviwing for a job and not for a school 15.000 cost..

I told her, why do you care?? You should't ask these kind of questions??

She said that 300 people apply there every semester so they are taking people with good background, high references etc.etc.

I thought: Go to hell.

newby39 · Jan 26, 2008

Thanks Elena. The costs sure have gone up. I will take your comments into advisement.

faris786 · Jan 27, 2008

I am currently attending the dover business college,clifton.it is a wonderful college.its my second semester.we are doing our clinicals in different hospitals.our teachers are wonderful and very experienced.some are doctors,bsn and msn.we have to study hard.we have test and quizes every week.i really love this programme.it is expensive,but time is money now a days.i strongly recommend this college.

newby39 · Jan 28, 2008

Thank you for the information. It sounds like you have enjoyed your experience. I am sure that it is a lot of work. Could you tell me a little more about the day to day routine? I was told that classes are Mon-Thur (8:00-4:00). How has your experience with clinicals been? What hours are they and which facilities are you using? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I think that speaking to someone who has actually been through this will give me the most acurate answers.

ashe · Jan 28, 2008

Hi, I am currently searching for a good nursing program to enter and Dover is close to me. I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with the above mentioned school? The tuition is 21,000.00 for the 2008 year and it is a 15 month program. I would like to have some information on this school before I attempt to take the entrance exam. I looked on the NJ State Board of Nursing website at the NCLEX passing rate, but the Dover Business School was not listed. Any information would be greatly appreciated.:innerconf:innerconf

Hello all, I am a newbie here. I have just been accepted into the LPN program at Dover Business College in Clifton and so far I love everything about it. I am excited and will begin classes in April. The cost is $21,000. You can apply for financial aid and other loans. I would encourage you to go with your heart. Yes I was asked the very same questions re: family support, where I am working, if I had any young children and where do I see myself 5 years from now? These questions was only asked so that they'll know if you can finish the program. The LPN program is intense, a full day, so if someone works a morning shift (8-4) it is unlikely that they will make it to school.Hence the reason for so many questions. I hope this help a little.

faris786 · Jan 29, 2008

In dover business college,in 1st semester the timings are from 8 to 3 for 3 days and 8to 4 in one practical day.if you have some college credits like in psychology and life science.then you will leave early at 12pm.so first semester is for psycholgy and life science and foundation of nursing.i had my college credits so i left 12 pm every day except one day which is practical day.8-4pm.we have fridays off.

but in second semester everybody is in same boat,the time is from 8-4 for 2 days in college.the other 2 days we go to bergan regional and east orange for clinicals.the timings are 7:30am to 2:30pm.some times when we are done early with patients we leave early.

i hope this info will help you.

coranmartin · Jun 4, 2008

question how long was the interview at dover and what type of questions did they ask.i have my interview tomorrow i am a bit nervous

motherjanet · Dec 22, 2009

I meant to reply to this message, and not in the forum that I initially posted. Here is a copy and Paste of it:

I completed the LPN course in September of 2009, have a great job in a nursing home, but I have some advice for anyone who is thinking about this school. First, the school is not accredited and if you fail- you will start over at a new school. NOTHING WILL TRANSFER. The last time I checked the tuition was raised to $25,000. This would make Dover Business College the MOST EXPENSIVE PROGRAM IN THE STATE! The program is also 15months, opposed to 12 months that most school's require. Here are the positives:

1) Dover requires a higher passing rate on the HESI (the exit exam) than the state's requirement, so if you pass, you are better prepared for the NCLEX.

2) They have open enrollment. So you dont have to wait a whole year after you decide that you want to go into nursing, to start school. Usually they take a class in July, and then another class in January.

Here are the Negatives:

1) If you fail a class, chances are they will kick you out of the program. You owe any loans immediately, nothing will transfer to another school, and you will start over. They will tell you that you can come back and join the next class, but in my 15 months there- none of my classmates were allowed to return. This is important to know along with the fact that by the 3rd semester, they dont have enough faculty signed on to teach more than 15 students. This means that 30 students start, and within 6 months, they expect only 15 students or less into the program. I watched students with 74.5 grades (which would be rounded up to a 75, which is passing) fail because of this teacher/student quota.

2) The Dean will be your friend right up until you have paid your tuition, then she turns into a drill seargant. You are on your own if you have a problem with a test, or a teacher. Lucky for me, I had excellent grades and stayed quiet in class. But there were many students who had correct answers and cited the textbook, and were told that the TEXTBOOK WAS WRONG!!!!! Not only was this unfair for those students..... Those students were kicked out of the program without a chance to appeal (regardless what there rights are in the student handbook)

I had a great close knit family of students who helped each other study. Most of what we learned we taught each other. In Clinical @ Bergen Regional Medical Center (formerly Bergen Pines) we would share a floor with other student nurses from other schools. We were impressed by their knowledge, and the positive attitudes they had. At our school, we would constantly be fearful of the doomsday scenarios our teachers would impose on our day.

Those who left the school for personal reasons or unfair grading policies ended up in accredited schools, graduated, and many went straight into an RN program, which is only a few months longer than Dovers LPN program, and similar in price. I would suggest that anyone interested in this school, research their options and speak to current students. REMEMBER, they dont have enough room for everyone to Graduate, so some will fail out without reason. THIS IS COMING FROM A GRADUATE, NOT AN ANGRY DROP OUT.

I wish you all success in whatever program you decide to go into, and dont let Dover Business College defer you from reaching your goals. Nursing is the best career choice Ive made, and I thank DBC for the education and opportunity they gave me.

elena121 · Dec 23, 2009

I am glad I didn't attend that school. They prejudiced me because of my accent..I offered to pay school in cash back then and was told no.

They were afraid I will not pass and will lower their passing rate despite I did better than more on the NET test and passed it and I had been in this country just for a couple of days.

I had already a bachelor from my country. Anyway, long story short..

I did go to another LPN school and was on top of my class , will be done with my RN by May and doing great there and looking forward to Masters program in nursing managment.

They lost...

And I am not sure but a girl attending there told me that they do not give loans or financial aid..25 thousands what a rip off..

Happy2bLPN · Jan 17, 2010

I currently attend Dover for the LPN program. It is very expensive - 25,000 for the sequence. I have just started, but have mixed reviews. First, they are accredited and apparently awaiting associate degree granting authority which would enable them to morph into an LPN - RN bridge track additional to the LPN track. However, pretty much no school will take any LPN classes as a transfer credit, unless they are in a degree program, and their currently (to my knowledge) - is not a degree program for LPN in NJ.

Having said the above, the fact remains that if you want to enroll in a LPN to RN track program, they schools are truly interested in the fact that you have a LPN license and of course nothing less than a C on your transcript. So accreditation wise - all should be well.

At this early stage, I would say the teachers are excellent, but the deans and the academic policy seem a bit skewed - and not in the interest of the students. I was told of the previous class to my own, that 30 started and only 13 passed to the next semester. I would wager a guess that the school is deliberately failing out potential "nclex non passers" early, to keep their pass rate high so they can acquire degree granting authority. Which leads me to say - Hmmmm. Anyway, its very new in the game and I will say that the teachers seem excellent.

I'll keep you posted! :)

Lauren Price-Nickels · Feb 3, 2010

NESS,

I was one of the 13 students who did not return. Since then, I have been accepted to an accredited school and I am very happy for my upcoming semester. When I first went to Dover, I was told that I shouldn't work, because it would interfere with my studies. No problem. I was also told not to worry about Money, because they would find grants and student aid (which I wouldnt have to start paying back till 6 months after I left the school). No problem! They also said that they would do everything they could to help you with the program. That is, until they have your money....

First Semester was great. Teachers offered extra credit and even tutoring on the weekends. Second semester was the total opposite. Teachers would keep you on the pass/fail line so at the end of the semester your hair was falling out. This, and there is a business angle to this. If you read your student handbook, all you need to do is make it to Finals and they have the right to charge you 70% of your tuition. Now take into consideration that the second semester had the SAME teachers as the first! New rule for second semester: No Tutoring, no extra credit!

Now I am not a person who thinks that extra credit is needed. If you study 5 hours a day, and know the book by heart, you shouldnt have any problems, right? WRONG! 1/2 the teachers disagreed with each other, and 3 out of 4 teachers argued that the book they made you study was wrong! Do they test from the book? Sure.... Most of what you learn is from the internet, and asking students from other schools. Dover is one of the most unorganized, stubborn Colleges (not a "real" college, its just their company name) that ive ever had the pleasure of attending. Here is why your school is a scam:

1) They dont have enough teacher's available at the Hospitals to teach 30 students. Even if 30 had passed, they would have to kick some people out for attitude problems

2) They tell you not to work, and not to worry about paying back loans... but if they kick you out at the end of the 2nd semester, you owe 70% of the tuition within one week (cash) or it goes to collection. Let's do the math: 5 semester school. 2 semesters attending = 70% of tuition owed???? If you took loans, and got a grant.... your bill (not including the loans you have to pay back) is about $8,000 cash due within a week of leaving the school. Funny, I thought if the government won't pay you from a loan I took, then I shouldn't either.

3) At a regular school, let's say "Local Community College" you pay for classes. If you fail out, you only owe $$ for the time you spent there. And if you decide to go to another school, most of the world accepts your "college credits". Not Dover. If you dont make it through the 15 months and pass the HESI (Dover requires you to pass with a higher score than the state requires for you to sit on the NCLEX) you will have NOTHING to show for it. Not a credit to transfer.... not another shot at going back and retaking the class at Dover... NOTHING. Oh, except a $25,000 bill for NOTHING. Think about it. Its like buying a brand new car, only to drive it into the ocean, not collect the insurance... and then going out and buying another brand new. Your LPN career just cost you $50,000 in loans. Sounds a lot like an RN program to me. :lol2:

4) If you need something from them... Dover Business college is not on your side. They do not return calls unless they are recruiting you. Some of their teachers are "doctors in the Dominican Republic" but dont qualify as a home health aid in our country... hence why they are teachers @ DBC instead of practicing medicine.

5) :down:Many of the Hospitals have dropped DBC from allowing their student nurses to go there. :down: This is because schools like Lincoln Tech and Allied Health and Hohokus all require you to be bonded and insured to step into their hospital. Not Dover, they dont feel like spending the $20 per student it costs for malpractice insurance

6) Some of the biggest staffing companies such as Maxim Healthcare, Bayada Nursing, PRN Nursing, Adomus, and Hospice won't hire Dover graduates. This is because some big names in the Healthcare field were burned by the school and have basically black listed everything related to Dover.

There is absolutely no reason to go to this school, when there are so many schools to choose from.

Oh... and there is a reason why they dont post their NCLEX pass rates. Let them explain it to you, and see them spin