Direct Entry MSN 2020 at Columbia University

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Hello Everyone, The applications for June 2020 at Columbia University has now opened. I haven't seen any new threads for this year so I wanted to start one. I am in the process of applying and half way done! References already sent their recommendations!! and an upside to this year is that Columbia University is no longer requiring the GRE. SO I am pretty happy about that!!

Good Luck!

1 hour ago, BStoRN said:

Thank you. Very helpful. I'm choosing between the Columbia MDE and the Penn BSN 2nd degree. Any thoughts or insight on the Penn program?

Not really, I didn’t look much into second degree programs mainly because I was concerned about not having enough financial aid since there’s a cap on how much financial aid you can get while completing an undergraduate degree. Penn is a really good program though so that sounds like a really nice predicament to be in lol

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10 minutes ago, egoma said:

Not really, I didn’t look much into second degree programs mainly because I was concerned about not having enough financial aid since there’s a cap on how much financial aid you can get while completing an undergraduate degree. Penn is a really good program though so that sounds like a really nice predicament to be in lol

Financial aid info comes out soon ✌!

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I am in the MDE program and was wondering... if I want to eventually become a nurse practitioner, is the only way to do this through the DNP program? Since we only earn an MS without a specialization, what are the options for pursuing an NP after this?Any insight is much appreciated!

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3 minutes ago, emolls said:

I am in the MDE program and was wondering... if I want to eventually become a nurse practitioner, is the only way to do this through the DNP program? Since we only earn an MS without a specialization, what are the options for pursuing an NP after this?Any insight is much appreciated!

No, you can do an NP program anywhere else. It could be another DNP or an MSN that leads to an NP. Doesn’t have to be at Columbia.

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4 minutes ago, emolls said:

I am in the MDE program and was wondering... if I want to eventually become a nurse practitioner, is the only way to do this through the DNP program? Since we only earn an MS without a specialization, what are the options for pursuing an NP after this?Any insight is much appreciated!

you have the same options as someone who is an RN with a BSN degree. You can either become an NP through a masters program or a doctorate program. However, you also have to consider the specialty. Some specialties, like anesthesia, will soon mandate a doctorate degree. I wouldn’t be surprised if other specialties will follow. But yeah, in general no difference at all. and you don’t even have to go to columbia’s DNP program.

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does anyone know the tuition difference between NYU’s ABSN and Columbia’s MDE tuition? My top two choices were Columbia and NYU, and upon realizing that I won’t even have a specialization as a RN with my MSN I’m a bit discouraged. I don’t know if I want my DNP, but I did know I wanted to pursue an NP specialization. This means I’d have to an attend a post-MSN program after Columbia...I know NYU has advanced certificates, BS/MS program, and an ABSN program. I just want to make sure Columbia is really for me, since I’d be going into a lot of debt for it.

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5 minutes ago, amandaruizu said:

does anyone know the tuition difference between NYU’s ABSN and Columbia’s MDE tuition? My top two choices were Columbia and NYU, and upon realizing that I won’t even have a specialization as a RN with my MSN I’m a bit discouraged. I don’t know if I want my DNP, but I did know I wanted to pursue an NP specialization. This means I’d have to an attend a post-MSN program after Columbia...I know NYU has advanced certificates, BS/MS program, and an ABSN program. I just want to make sure Columbia is really for me, since I’d be going into a lot of debt for it.

https://www.nyu.edu/students/student-information-and-resources/bills-payments-and-refunds/tuition-and-fee-rates/2017-2018/rory-meyers-college-of-nursing-2017-2018.html

i think it’s about the same. if it is, columbia, in my opinion, is a better choice. especially if you’re not sure if you wanna become an np in the future.

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On 2/7/2020 at 3:23 PM, Gmilitar said:

you have the same options as someone who is an RN with a BSN degree. You can either become an NP through a masters program or a doctorate program. However, you also have to consider the specialty. Some specialties, like anesthesia, will soon mandate a doctorate degree. I wouldn’t be surprised if other specialties will follow. But yeah, in general no difference at all. and you don’t even have to go to columbia’s DNP program.

I looked on websites for some MSN programs and I see that many require a BSN degree as a prerequisite (i.e. SUNY Downstate's Women's Health NP Program).

Do you think this is simply because having a MS in nursing without a BSN is uncommon? Do you know if the lack of BSN would be overlooked in the application process given experience working as a RN with a Master's?

Starting to wish I had clearer understanding about this before committing...

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1 minute ago, emolls said:

I looked on websites for some MSN programs and I see that many require a BSN degree as a prerequisite (i.e. SUNY Downstate's Women's Health NP Program).

Do you think this is simply because having a MS in nursing without a BSN is uncommon? Do you know if the lack of BSN would be overlooked in the application process given experience working as a RN with a Master's?

Starting to wish I had clearer understanding about this before committing...

Yeah it’s usually because entry level/direct entry MSN programs are relatively new. They’ve only started popping up around the last decade or so. I don’t think most programs would overlook you because you lack a BSN; just call them to make sure when you’re ready to apply for them. More and more advanced practice programs are updating their websites to reflect admission can be given to those with either a bsn or entry level msn. I wouldn’t worry.

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14 minutes ago, emolls said:

I looked on websites for some MSN programs and I see that many require a BSN degree as a prerequisite (i.e. SUNY Downstate's Women's Health NP Program).

Do you think this is simply because having a MS in nursing without a BSN is uncommon? Do you know if the lack of BSN would be overlooked in the application process given experience working as a RN with a Master's?

Starting to wish I had clearer understanding about this before committing...

I dont think they would overlook your app. Just like what egoma mentioned. It is relatively new. A lot lot of changes in the nursing educational requirements are happening where a higher degree is becoming the new minimum requirement for both RNs and NPs. I feel like all the accelerated direct entry masters program will be more common later on than the ABSN; it just seems redundant having a second bachelors. IMO, getting the higher degree is always the safer route lol

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I agree with everyone. Generally in the past, majority of MSN usually require a BSN degree because their programs usually focus on specialization such as Nursing educator, informatics, public health, management, research specialist or Nurse Practitioners. I think what you’re starting to see now among select university is the shift of having a direct entry degree program (MSN with RN) without a BSN requirement. And I believe the direct entry programs to be among elite colleges without an undergraduate nursing program.

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lol yup. plus it’s hard to imagine being overlooked if you graduated from one of the top nursing schools in the country. another nursing school with a masters direct entry is hopkins. I think hopkins is ranked #1, according to some sources from google, and columbia is now #4.

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