CA PROP 8: Improving Dialysis HC Centers?

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  1. CA PROP 8: YES OR NO

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In the California midterm elections this week, we are being asked to vote on PROP 8, a proposition attempting to introduce cap profits at dialysis centers (which 70% statewide are owned by the same corporation, and have an average for 5x the profits of the average CA hospital). Their intention apparently with this prop is to force reinvestment in patient care and the work force and drive down costs by putting limits on profits and controlling costs (the monopoly can't be helping this). There would also be legislation to require clinics to accept all forms of insurance. A record amount of money has been spent against this proportion. AMA is against it, I think likely for the strain it may cause on ERs if clinics did close. I just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has a good sense of this proposition or if any of you can offer insight based on experience in California dialysis centers - either working or in admin.

Thank you from a Humble Med/Surg RN.

More of the topic:

[h=4]The Question[/h]Should outpatient dialysis clinics be required to rebate money to private insurers if their revenue exceeds allowable costs by more than 15%?

[h=4]The Situation[/h]People suffering from End Stage Renal Disease, the final stage of kidney disease, must receive dialysis to survive. Dialysis filters out waste and toxins from blood. It is typically done in a chronic dialysis clinic three times a week with each treatment lasting up to four hours each time. These clinics are licensed by the California Department of Public Health (DPH) using federal certification standards.

Approximately 588 licensed clinics operate in California. The majority of the clinics are owned and run by one of two private for-profit companies. Estimated annual revenue of the private companies is $3 billion. Most dialysis is paid for by Medicare and Medi-Cal. These programs pay a fixed rate established by the regulations and are close to the average cost of treatment. Private insurance also covers dialysis with payment rates fixed by negotiation with the providers. On average those rates are multiple times higher than that paid by the government programs.

[h=4]The Proposal[/h]This proposition requires the companies that own clinics to rebate certain payers, mostly private insurance companies, if the clinic chains' corporate annual revenues are more than 15 % higher than a cap defined in the proposition. The cap is based on the total allowable costs of "direct patient services care" and "health care quality improvement costs." The costs of non-managerial staff salary and benefits, drugs and medical supplies, staff training, patient education, and electronic health information systems fall within the cap. Certain staff such as medical directors and nurse managers are required by federal law. It is not clear if such staff falls within the allowable cost category.

Adjustments to the amount of the cap are allowed if the clinic owner operators prove to a court that the revenue cap is so low that it is an unconstitutional taking of the value of the business. The challenger bears the burden of proving what cap would be appropriate.

[h=4]Fiscal effect[/h]The fiscal impacts of this proposition are dependent upon the response of the clinics to it and on interpretations of what allowable costs are by the DPH and the courts. It appears that initially rebates will be paid which reduces the profits of the clinics. The impact on state and local governments varies from a net savings of tens of millions of dollars to a similar net cost.

[h=4]Supporters say[/h]

  • Prop. 8 provides incentive for dialysis clinic companies to lower their costs and improve the quality of patient care.
  • When insurance companies are charged less for dialysis the overall cost of insurance will decrease for everyone.

[h=4]Opponents say[/h]

  • Prop 8 sets arbitrary limits on what insurance companies pay for dialysis treatment will not cover the complete cost of running a clinic.
  • Clinics will reduce operations or close, depriving patients of access and increasing the risk of poor medical outcomes.

Why Proposition 8 Is One Of The Most Contentious, And Confusing, Ballot Measures In Play - capradio.org

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

I voted no (I do not live in California). The cost of dialysis cont to rise due to the ever increasing complexity of our pts. Taking care of pts with LifeVests, LVADs, vents in the outpt environment while they undergo dialysis with a ratio of 1 nurse to 12-16 pts is a recipe for disaster.

To further cut the funding for care will only increase nurse ratios and decrease care.

BTW - I moved to Dialysis Forum

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