CUNY Hunter Generic Pathway Fall 2013

DoGoodThenGo · Jan 7, 2013

Only fifty slots for each new incoming class? *Faint*

Considering how difficult admission was to Hunter-Bellevue's generic pathway program was before this just boggles the mind.

CUNY really needs to create another undergraduate BSN program somewhere. Maybe team up with some of the uptown Manhattan hospitals such as NYP or Mount Sinai and bring back City College's school of nursing.

pandora22 · Jan 7, 2013

Yeah it's a real bummer. They are ending the traditional bsn generic program that we all know this fall semester, fall 2013 is the last application. In its place, this year they are introducing a new bsn program that only requires 1 year of pre-reqs before you can apply to the nursing upper division which will be 3 years. Therefore, I believe the original 100 seats are being split to 50 each between each program (correct me if I'm wrong!).

DoGoodThenGo · Jan 7, 2013

Yeah it's a real bummer. They are ending the traditional bsn generic program that we all know this fall semester, fall 2013 is the last application. In its place, this year they are introducing a new bsn program that only requires 1 year of pre-reqs before you can apply to the nursing upper division which will be 3 years. Therefore, I believe the original 100 seats are being split to 50 each between each program (correct me if I'm wrong!).

Oh is *that* what they are doing over there! *LOL*

In which case it does make sense a Moi!

Several other college/university nursing schools in the United States have three year BSN undergraduate programs run along similar lines. Indeed one has spoken of and recommended such schemes highly in previous posts.

While details vary between programs basically it is almost like taking the old three year diploma schools and dropping them into a BSN program. That is to say students will get more time to concentrate on their nursing major without having to compete with gen ed classes.

The new program is listed here: http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/nursing/admissions/undergraduate/new-generic-pathway-program

Just from a quick peep it seems there have been some changes. Both general and organic chemistry are now "essentials of". Could that mean Hunter has now created what many other nursing programs have long had; "chemistry for nursing students" (aka chemistry for weenies, *LOL*). Know many complained about the former incarnation of both general and organic which was taken by all Hunter health science/nursing majors and IIRC taught to a very high level. This is fine for pre-med or some such but maybe not so much for nursing students.

DoGoodThenGo · Jan 7, 2013

More comments:

The pre-nursing sequence year now looks like most ADN programs. You have a 100 level Psyc, English, History and Soc classes. Then math (Stats 100 class) and the two chemistry 100 level classes. So far so good, should be rather easy to score a total GPA of 3.0 here.

OTHO the fun begins if one is accepted into the program. You are taking A&P, Micro, and Pharmacology all in the first year of nursing classes. Assuming the old requirement of keeping a 3.0 in science and nursing classes applies for retention and you are looking at a very tough first year.

Lebron123 · Jan 9, 2013

Hey Pandora22. Yes, I actually think they messed the whole system up. It used to be 300 applicants for 100 seats, which is 1 in every 3 people. Assuming the number of applicants stays the same, it's one in every 6 people!! This is really stressing.

Anyways... How do u find the NLN studying? Do you find it difficult?

pandora22 · Jan 9, 2013

Hello Lebron =). I do find it challenging, not in the difficulty of the content but the vast amount the test covers. The science section is eating up a lot of study time, I have also yet to teach myself physics. Math doesn't look like it will be too bad. The vocab section is challenging, ordered some SAT vocab cards for that. Taking mine in February, hopefully all goes well!

DoGoodThenGo · Jan 9, 2013

Regarding the lower number of slots for Hunter's nursing program, maybe a decision going forward was reached that the future of nursing education in NYC or beyond is going to be about the quality of graduates and not quanity.

Hosptials,nursing homes/LTCs have been closing for years in NYC and the process is still going on. Yet while there seems to be no shortage of potential nursing students and graduates there are fewer and fewer new graduate spots opening up. Places are being very particular whom they hire and if you believe some of the postings on this forum even Hunter-Bellevue grads have been let go before completing their orientation/new nurse programs.

On the other side nursing education resources are stretched thin. Though HB will be moving into a new building as part of an ongoing major overhaul of Bellevue's campus, CUNY still has to find nursing professors/educators and so forth.

Hunter's NCLEX pass rates have been declining from a high of just over 91% in 2008 to 75.8% (75/99) for 2012, though they did manage to eek out a 90% rate for 2011. Still for the flagship CUNY nursing program HB really should be consistently at least in the 90% range if not for the odd dip into the high 80%. NYU manages this and their graudating classes over the past three years on average are twice or three times the size of Hunter's.

Lebron123 · Jan 10, 2013

I just finished studying the biology and anatomy part of the book. I feel it's not that hard at all.. It's really a matter of memorization. I feel what's covered in the book won't be on the actual test. I'm sure that the test will be much more difficult than the study guide, since the material in the study guide is too basic. I don't know, we'll see on test day....So when are you taking your test? I'm taking mine on February 1. Three more weeks of studying!

pandora22 · Jan 10, 2013

Thanks for the information DoGoodThenGo, it helped clear up some stuff for me about Hunter.

Lebron, I feel the same about the material in the book/review section being too basic, some of it is easier than high school stuff and I fear that if I just study that then the exam will turn out to be more difficult!! I'm mostly studying from sparknotes/websites. I take it on February 8th.

zscdvgu · Jan 10, 2013

Hi, I also want to apply to the traditional generic program for the fall 2013, anybody know what is the last date we can take the nln pax test, I know the deadline is 1 march, do they need few days to send the test result or what? Currently, I have registered for the feb 26 test, is it too late, I am really confused, someone please help me ! I appreciate it...

DoGoodThenGo · Jan 11, 2013

Hi, I also want to apply to the traditional generic program for the fall 2013, anybody know what is the last date we can take the nln pax test, I know the deadline is 1 march, do they need few days to send the test result or what? Currently, I have registered for the feb 26 test, is it too late, I am really confused, someone please help me ! I appreciate it...

Take a deep breath and relax! *LOL*

Everything you need to know is on HB's website:

"• You may take the NLN RN Pre-Admission PAX exam at the Hunter College Testing Service, or arrange to take it elsewhere. The deadline to take the exam is Friday, March 1, 2013. Scores for the NLN RN Pre-Admission PAX exam, if taken outside of Hunter College, must be sent directly to Maria Luisa Mendoza, Pre-Nursing Advisor, Hunter-Bellevue School of Nursing, 425 E 25th Street, Box 626, New York, NY 10010 from the NLN. Only official test scores will be accepted."

In short the answer to your query is that long as you take the NLN-PAX on or before 1 March 2013, that is all you need worry about far as that goes. If for some reason during the application process HB says they don't have your scores and or they didn't arrive on time you'll have something from NLN as proof which should clear things up.

Just make sure to clearly and correctly indicate which school or schools you want your NLN-Pax scores sent.