ICU in community hospital or Stepdown in academic hospital

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Hi to all ICU RN's/CRNA's,

I'm a new grad with full-time immersion experience in the ICU and am hoping to become an ICU nurse, and possibly a CRNA one day. I know that I'll need to get experience in the ICU as a prerequisite, however I do have a dilemma that I would appreciate some advice on:

I have a job offer in an ICU at a smaller community hospital (where I did my immersion) and a potential job offer on a stepdown unit at a large, university teaching hospital. I am stuck in between the two because I feel that the patient acuity in the smaller hospital would not give me enough learning experience to prepare me for CRNA school (~30% mechanically ventilated, but more opportunities for titratable drips/ART)---most of the very critical patients are transferred out into teaching hospitals and we also get stepdown patients since the hospital doesn't have a stepdown unit. If I take the job offer, I THINK I might have to eventually apply to a teaching hospital's ICU in order to gain adequate experience.

On the other hand, the teaching hospital would give me a wider range of learning experiences but I might have to start on a stepdown unit and not be guaranteed an internal transfer to an ICU. So I might lose some time in the ICU. If I choose this option, I hope to transfer to an ICU in less than a year.

So my question from your experience, is it better to start at smaller hosp ICU and apply to larger hosp later? or it is better/realistic to start at the larger hospital's stepdown and do internal transfer?

which would be a better/quicker/more "guaranteed" option to gaining ICU experience (n an academic center one day) that would ultimately benefit my goal of becoming an ICU nurse and becoming a CRNA one day? This is simply a question of which would be a better option to get to my career goal and not where I can "get my feet wet" as I am very confident I will be able to pick up skills quickly even if I am to start in an ICU immediately.

Any insight would be helpful! Thanks!

No... Actually I graduate Nursing school with my ADN this upcoming May 2013!! :D But I already know this is where my heart is set on!! Been working as a CNA on the med-surg floor at the local hospital close to my school.. Actually we do clinicals there, and I have become friendly with ICU since I deal with them quite a bit because of work! I will get even more dealings this fall with my OR and day surgery rotations so I'm super excited! My plan is 6 months of med-surg immediately after graduation, then hit ICU for the year all while completing my BSN and hopefully go straight to CRNA since the school I will attend one of the 2 that offers the MSN program in my area..... At least that's my plan!! Lol!

Congrats, pink4! Sounds like you got yourself a plan! If you feel confident enough though, maybe you can even start immediately in the ICU so that time counts for the requirements to apply for CRNA school =) Also just an FYI, by the time we apply to CRNA if we are to, the CRNA programs would be converted to DNP programs rather than MSN. Just something to think about as you mentally prepare yourself for that =)

I do feel like I'm confident enough but let's just say my ICU mentors really are pushing me to do the floor first... I really dont want to but they promise me it will make a world of a difference in time management and skill set.. So we will see!

The university I'm looking at has a dnp program after the msn program but I sure would be happy to skip msn and go straight to dnp like some schools are already doing it!

I def know though as soon as I hit my 1 yr mark in ICU I will start applying! The worst they can say is to reapply next year! :D

What schools you looking to apply SewRN? I'm in Houston, TX so I only have 2 options! Lol

haha pink4, i agree. once i hit my 1 yr mark, i'll start applying if i feel comfortable enough. by 2015, all msn programs must be converted to DNP so there won't be a master's crna program by then. i'm in illinois, so i'm fortunate to have 3 schools close enough =)

Yay!!!! Its the DNP status nationwide??? I was looking in aana.com and didn't see anything about that? Can you point me to an article or something that says exactly who this applies too?? :D oh I'm soooo excited!!!

Never mind I see now.. It states in 2015 the change needs to start, and be in full effect by 2025.. Hmm... Interesting!!!! :D

Hi pink4! Was just reading this thread as I'm possibly starting crna school next year. Wondering if you ended up applyingand what you're up to now! í ½í¸Š

Specializes in CTICU.

Don't plan on CRNA when you start. That's a good way to annoy your colleagues. Plan on becoming the best stepdown/ICU nurse you can, and gaining skill in managing sick ICU patients. Go where the patients are the most acute. You need AT LEAST a year (but preferably more) of acute hemodynamic drip management to be competitive and successful as a SRNA. You will hopefully have a long career - a year or so "delay" will be nothing in the scheme of things, especially if you're learning things.

That is what I focused on--to be a good ICU nurse first before anything else. Fast forward 5 years, I'm accepted to two programs for 2018 that I'm trying to decide between. Didn't think I would make it in either and didn't think I'd have the problem to have to choose! It is a good problem to have though!

Sewrn, I am in a similar situation as you. I'll be finishing up my BSN and my long term goal is CRNA. I'm torn between the ICU at my current small community hospital or going to a level 1 trauma hospital thats bigger with more complex cases. I'm curious how it all worked out for you now that it's 5 years later. Did you end up staying at the community hospital the entire time? Looking back what would you do differ or same? Any other advice or feedback would be appreciated. Thx.

Specializes in Trauma ICU.

I had a similar dilemma when I finished school. I felt more drawn to the stepdown offer because of the manager, whereas the ICU (small community hospital) manager did not give me good vibes, at all. In the end though, I knew I wanted to be in an ICU so that's the offer I took. I did my time at that facility and eventually moved on to a large level 1 academic facility. While I was definitely spot on with feeling a lack of good vibes from the manager, having ICU experience opened many doors for me when I was looking to move on.

If ICU/CRNA is your goal, take the path of least resistance towards that goal. In a year you can apply to that academic facility ICU.

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