concurrency issues...???

perioddrama · Nov 1, 2012

The gist of it is is that the theory and clinicals are not concurrent for med-surg and/or OB.

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

The gist of it is is that the theory and clinicals are not concurrent for med-surg and/or OB.

Thank you for your response. I read this post: https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/ca-board-nursing-647809.html and I think I now understand what's going on.

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

I think my real concern is whether or not WA state also changed their requirements. It seems like only CA applicants are affected. I haven't read any WA applicant having problem related to concurrency issue. I'm a little confused. Will have to read more.

Kuyafern · Nov 1, 2012

I think it would be best if you contact WA state.

But here is an applicant that applied in WA. Read Kellieskorner's post. https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/13-states-same-760249-page2.html I think she tried to apply in WA

I think my real concern is whether or not WA state also changed their requirements. It seems like only CA applicants are affected. I haven't read any WA applicant having problem related to concurrency issue. I'm a little confused. Will have to read more.

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

I think it would be best if you contact WA state.
But here is an applicant that applied in WA. Read Kellieskorner's post. https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/13-states-same-760249-page2.html I think she tried to apply in WA

Thank you for that response. This is really sad news. Have you found any solution to this problem? Taking up Masters perhaps? I'm not planning to go to WA anytime soon, but I am planning to move within the next 2-3 years. So I still have time to do some schooling.

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

My younger sister who just got her BSN degree from the Philippines is trying to get her license in NY, and she is currently waiting for CVS documents. She submitted it yesterday. I just read in some posts just now that NY is now participating in this concurrency requirement. Do you guys have any idea if this is true? I hate to tell her that she just wasted around $500. Thank you for all your responses.

Kuyafern · Nov 1, 2012

Thank you for that response. This is really sad news. Have you found any solution to this problem? Taking up Masters perhaps? I'm not planning to go to WA anytime soon, but I am planning to move within the next 2-3 years. So I still have time to do some schooling.

Only solution to this is to enroll the said requirements. I've applied in Nevada but I've recently had contact with them and I was required to take medsurg 2 course with theory, lecture, and skills lab.

xanxan · Nov 1, 2012

hi niki_rn,

:)

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

hi niki_rn,

Hello xanxan. Were you affected by the concurrency issue too? If yes, which state?

@perioddrama thank you for your PM. I do appreciate it. Unfortunately, I cannot send PMs yet since I'm new. It's really sad. Isn't this a form of discrimination?

steppybay · Nov 1, 2012

I'm not sure what you mean by a "form of discrimination?

Kababayan, you will find in other threads that it was mentioned the CHED, PRC and PNA all came to the CA BON earlier this year to assist in this matter, not sure what become of the meeting, my guess is nothing, I'm sure CA BON had plenty to say to all of them as they have all been told for many years to correct their curriculums to meet not only CA requirements but for many other similar requirements of the States.

Here's one very read, please click it, it sums up well: [COLOR=#003366]https://allnurses.com/nurse-registrat...ca-682278.html

There was another PH poster who had her father write to the local CA congressman many months ago, but again, not sure if it really happened or what, but trying to argue against a 25 year old plus rule and regulation is not going to be easy, no matter how much hell raising anyone does. Mind you, there are other States currently up to 15 that are also enforcing the concurrency rules, someone who was rejected in NV showed the concurrency rule has been there since 1952!

I highly doubt the minds of the CA BON will not change their requirements for any international students and for what valid reason? We simply didn't meet the minimum requirements. CA BON has even rejected a large national USA college (Excelsior College) from all their US grads to even applying into CA from those graduating since 2006 on and can't even endorse their RN license from other States into CA as well. That case went thru the legal system in the courts and found Excelsior was not right in their arguments and lost the case.

Here's the link to other States enforcing the same rules: [COLOR=#003366]https://allnurses.com/nurse-registrat...me-760249.html

Bottom line: it's OUR OWN PH educational system that failed us in not meeting USA standards, NOT that they had do, but also we as PH grads took it for granted that what we believed was the right courses to take and do was in fact, not the case at all. Also, what brought the CA BON to this was the matter of them finding out that there are instances of PH applicants who have submitted false docmentation purchased from the streets of RECTO, students who may have already passed the NCLEX and working as an RN, so now come renewal times, they are re-examing those from the year 2004 to present, you can blame those greedy and lying PH people for this as well.

They are requesting passport information to make sure that one actually went to the Phils in some cases. They caught students who claimed they went to school in the Phils, but never went and was actually still in the States. So blame those guys too for cheating their way into the CA or other States system, it hurts all us honest ones, who actually spent 4 grueling years, not just partying up and paying money for a false paper degree.

Some have said it's a conspiracy of the States, but I say the conspiracy is it's the CHED etal that conspired against the PH students as it does appear they have known of the concurrency rules for years, but chose to ignore it, but NOW some have said the CHED is adjusting the curriculums to MEET the US standards, but remains to be seen as recent 2012 PH grads have been posting they are still NOT meeting the requirements. The CHED etal don't have to this and just meet the country's own needs, but I'm sure they are under tremendous pressure from the thousands of affected students.

Niki_RN · Nov 1, 2012

@steppybay

I understand your point. Honestly, I'm not affected as much as others are since I already have my license. But I feel so sad for those who got caught in the middle. I'm scared this concurrency "disease" will spread all over the country and no one will accept PH/IEN anymore. It's so unfortunate. I'm also worried for my sister who's waiting for her ATT from NYSED. She worked so hard for her degree. All that money spent will be wasted. Have you heard of any confirmation regarding NYSED adapting to this concurrency requirement?