Columbia University ETP 2011

Ollie2011 · Mar 10, 2011

Ok, great! Thanks!!

NurseGradHopeful · Mar 13, 2011

I was just wondering if any current ETP students or if any entering students know... Can our all white shoes for clinical be clogs (without a complete back) or do they have to have a complete back? Cause I have worked in medical environments where you couldnt where clogs cause your shoes had to have a full back but others did not care. I was wondering cause I am trying to decide on what shoes I want to get. If anyone knows the answer it would be really helpful. Thanks!

LookingAhead · Mar 14, 2011

Hi Ladubya87 et all,
I am a current student and I can speak to the reason why the CNM/WHNP option was d/c at Columbia and other schools (Yale). The thought is a CNM does not need an extra certification to provide the care a WHNP does. When a CNM graduates they will be fully prepared to take care of women from menarche onwards. i.e. CNMs are not just schooled in perinatal care. They are schooled in well woman as well. CNMs can work in both OB and GYN care. It's a pretty flexible field.
Also, I believe WHNP felt they should not be combined with CNM because there are practitioners who wanted to focus on women's health and not on birth.
I'm not sure Columbia will allow a dual degree. We talked a lot about it and the faculty told us that if we wanted WHNP (and the only reason we should go for it is if we plan to practice in a state that doesn't recognize CNM as the same level as NP - don't think there are many) then we would need to "apply" separately to WHNP and stay on for an extra semester or two. It wasn't encouraged.
I hope this helps. Please don't let it discourage you. I remember being really set on CNM/WHNP and now it isn't something that I'm worried about.
As to why you would get the CNM first if you are dead set on WHNP? Probably because It's more classes.

One more question on this, cu1234 - I had heard that one reason it is good to have the dual certification is because it may be easier to get a job. I think I read on another thread that if the position is for a WHNP not a CNM, that even though a CNM is qualified to do the work they may not be hired because it is more expensive to insure a CNM than a WHNP, even if they are not doing OB work.

Do you know of any employability issues like this?

TanyaPMHNP · Mar 14, 2011

I want to make sure I'm interpreting my financial aid info correctly. Does anyone else notice that for the 1st year, there is no scholarship, only loans offered? It seems there's a 25k scholarship but it isn't awarded until the 2nd and 3rd years. Is this correct? thanks guys!

dorshee · Mar 14, 2011

it's not 2nd and 3rd years. It's fall and spring semesters of the first year. Financial aid package is done each year. I'm not sure what the payment plan is like, but the scholarship looks like it will be distributed in the fall and spring.

Ollie2011 · Mar 15, 2011

What are people doing for housing? How is off-campus apartment searching going??

sumnboutme · Mar 15, 2011

it's not 2nd and 3rd years. It's fall and spring semesters of the first year. Financial aid package is done each year. I'm not sure what the payment plan is like, but the scholarship looks like it will be distributed in the fall and spring.

Hi dorshee,

not replying to this quote but to the pm you sent. i can't send pms yet so please email me at [email protected].

-D

dorshee · Mar 15, 2011

sent! thanks sumnboutme!

rubyruby · Mar 16, 2011

did anyone else get their financial aid today? they did offer me some scholarships but it looks like i would still need to take out $56k in private loans for year one. i am still waiting to hear back from hopkins financial aid office.

im wondering if they said the average amount students get during the open house?

mleigh · Mar 16, 2011

rubyruby: It sounds like you've got the normal amount of scholarship/federal loans. Pretty sure that 55,000 is the max in private loans; 25k in scholarship; 25k in federal loans. Not pretty...

But when I called Hopkins to ask when I might expect financial aid info, she told me sometime in April. I said, "After my deposit would be due?" And she laughed at me. Soooo... I wouldn't expect it any time soon.

anniika · Mar 17, 2011

This isn't a response to what's been written in the past few days but is a somewhat belated suggestion to anyone who feels his/her experience and metrics are well within a program's acceptance range, and yet s/he wasn't admitted.

If you're confident that you're objectively appraising your own merits and weaknesses, and you're still completely mystified about a rejection, one thing you might want to investigate is having someone who is academically eligible to receive them review your letters of recommendation. It's verboten for that individual to show you the letters or read them in entirety to you, but that person would be able to tell you if a particular recommender was not helping your case. I have taught at the college level for a number of years, and I have never agreed to write a letter for someone whose application I couldn't wholeheartedly support; this is the general rule most people I know follow. However, I can ASSURE you, I have seen smart, hardworking students completely screwed over by nasty, nasty faculty, with all sorts of axes to grind ... and I am quite sure the students themselves never had an inkling. Again, in my experience, it's definitely the exception and not the rule, but if you're turning over all the stones, you might want to check that one, too.

You can do this without breaking any academic standards. There are how-to articles online, just make sure you adhere to the guidelines.

sumnboutme · Mar 20, 2011

I was just wondering if any current ETP students or if any entering students know... Can our all white shoes for clinical be clogs (without a complete back) or do they have to have a complete back? Cause I have worked in medical environments where you couldnt where clogs cause your shoes had to have a full back but others did not care. I was wondering cause I am trying to decide on what shoes I want to get. If anyone knows the answer it would be really helpful. Thanks!

Hello,

They do require that shoes have a complete back. I think they (Nicole) checks it on your first day of lab and she also makes rounds during first week of clinicals to check everyone's uniforms.

-D