Clinical hours short of NMC suggestion?

[helricha]

First of all, I really hope Silverdragon reads this and gives me insight.

I have sent out my application as well as all of my paperwork to the NMC for my nursing license, except my training form. I was trained in the US at an accredited University and received my bachelor degree, which consisted of three full years of nursing training and one year of prerequisites.

I have been working for two years as a theatre nurse.

I passed my IELTS with 9's acrossed the board.

I have had my licensure body fill out the paper and mailed it.

The two references are filled out and mailed.

In other words, I fulfill all the requirements of licensure in the UK thus far.

My concern is: when the dean of my university took my transcripts, she needed to convert the credit hours to actual hours. The clinical hours that she calculated up was in the six hundreds. The NMC suggests approximately two thousand hours for clinical time.

How can there be such a difference?

Will this affect my ability to be licensed in the uk?

I am frustrated that with all of the work and money I've spent on this, that it may not come to fruition. In addition, I am moving to the UK next April regardless of the decision of the NMC, as I will be going on a spousal visa. But I am also aware that there is no more clinical training hours that I could have possibly taken to add up to their suggestion.

Am I missing something?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Heather

[plasmic, LPN]

Good day!Good thing I saw this topic as I am worried about my credentials.Can anyone confirm if the 2300hour clinical requirement. The NCM site indicates: "These are that you should have completed a three year full time course or a course totalling 4600 hours at post secondary level leading to registration as a general nurse. At least half of this course, 2,300 hours, must be in clinical or practical training, and at least one third, 1,533 hours, must be theoretical training."

In my summary of RLE, it indicates that I only earned 2,144 hours. Because of this, I am hesitant to apply.Is this strictly considered? I graduated in 2008 and since then, I have also accomplished my post graduate experience requirement. Can this be included instead?

Also, can someone advice me on what information should be included in the profession reference? Who are allowed to refer? Are nursing school teachers included?

Thanks!

[babyNP., APRN]

In which country did you receive your training?

From everything I've been able to comb over the internet, most BSN prepared US nurses will be able to pass the requirement despite not having the "required hours." Can't know until you try though...I will be applying later this fall.

Keep us posted on how it goes if you decide to apply and best of luck!

[plasmic, LPN]

@ babyRN

Thanks so much for the feedback!

I received my training at a university here in the Philippines. I hope that my training would suffice as a lot of graduates from my school already are RNs at UK. So when I looked at the NMC site, I was suprised why our total clinical hours were shorter than that of UKs.

So does this mean that NMC isn't necessarily legalistic with its requirements?

Also, do you know what the required format is for professional references and can you tell me who I can use as one?

thanks again and good luck to you as well.

[RNSunny]

@ babyRN

So does this mean that NMC isn't necessarily legalistic with its requirements?

From experience, the NMC will accept every application by merits. What I mean is that, application requirements may vary in different countries and states. For example, in Canada, requirements for nursing registration in BC can differ from those required by nursing Colleges (or registration bodies) in other jurisdictions such as Quebec, Ontario or Newfoundland.

If in doubt, however, you could ask the NMC. Let us know through this forum how you are getting on with your application.

:redbeathe be persevering!

[tbjockny]

Hello Helricha,

I am also interested in pursuing a nursing career overseas once I'm qualified here in the US. I am currently looking at St Luke's Hospital Nursing Program, which is 5 14-week semesters over 20 months. I was wondering if you might take a look at their posted hours for me? I'm not sure if my own conversions using the formula you provided matches up to NMC approval.

http://www.mystlukesonline.org/docs/pdf/SON%20-%20Curriculum%20Plan.pdf

[Coffee Nurse, BSN, RN]

Unfortunately, the NMC currently do not accept any degree other than the traditional BSN. Diplomas, associate degrees, and accelerated BSNs are not considered adequate.

Trained outside Europe | Nursing and Midwifery Council (See the third paragraph under "Information for nurses")

[babyNP., APRN]

Coffee--I thought it was okayish if you got your ADN and did an RN-BSN (not online) degree?

p.s. how's it going?? I just signed up for my overseas nursing programme!! Is it a lot of work?

[Coffee Nurse, BSN, RN]

i thought i remembered it saying more explicitly in the pdf that only traditional bsns were accepted -- nevertheless, if you look at that page i linked to, it does say:

"if you trained in the usa and have an associate in science degree in nursing (asdn) that was below three full time years in length, you will not meet our requirements for registration. we will consider your application if your programme was three full-time years or more, and if you undertook a bachelor of science degree in nursing (bsn)."

i don't know if they'd allow you to add up the time spent in the adn and rn-bsn programs to meet the three-year minimum. either way, it's a moot point for the pp, who was asking about a diploma program.

i start work a week from tomorrow! i'm both excited and nervous. the onp is a ton of work -- it took me about two weeks to complete the workbook -- but it's boring busywork, nothing that will tax your brain too much.

[NoleNurse2000]

Coffee Nurse. We'll have to compare our ONPs. I start mine (Manchester met University) on Feb 20th for 10 days straight...so we'll be finishing about the same time!

[Coffee Nurse, BSN, RN]

Oh, no, sorry, I said I start work a week from tomorrow. Did the ONP back in November. No desire to retake it, thanks :-P

[wicca18]

Congrats on your success babyrn

I read the problems you encountered coming over to the UK to nurse and getting your PIN to practice as a RN. I am in the same process but from the UK to the USA. After a particularly grueling day with CGFNS I identify totally with the frustrations and difficulties of the immigration and licensing process. It was good to see that people do reach a successful conclusion to their immigration and licensing journeys.

Enjoy the UK and the very best of luck!!

[babyNP., APRN]

Cool, best of luck! Did you have to take any classes or anything? I just feel bad that you have to take the NCLEX, yuck! I think the US-->UK route got very lucky in all of that...