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I WORK IN A BUSY CCU/ICU DEPT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF CHEST TUBES. DO RN'S IN YOUR HOSPITAL REMOVE CHEST TUBES S/P CABG 12-24 HOUR POST-OP? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RN'S WHO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS TASK. I AM NOT. I NEVER HAVE BEEN CHECKED OFF OR TAUGHT THIS PROCEDURE ON A FRESH HEART.
No thank-you... I have enough to do without expanding my job description anymore...with 5-6 tele patients on our super busy and super sick floor of 53 patients with all going for cardiac caths..stress tests and post cabg patients of 24 hours...I don't need to add that task..we do prepare; assist and dress the site and of course continue with the respiratory aspect of it...pulse ox/incentive spiro etc... enough already....
On my unit (CV surg) RN"S can pull chest tubes... there has to be order of course ..
The nurse has to be competent.. only the nurses who have been on the unit for years usually do it.. (and thats pretty much only the nurses on day shift) I think they have to take a course or prove competency... They can only pull mediastinal chest tubes though.. the PA's pull the pleural tubes.
The RN's can also pull epicardial pacing wires... the PA's have to be on the unit though..
In our CVICU,the resident on call for that day pulls the cts early on dayshift, or occasionally, the more energetic ones pull them before am rounds, as they're finishing their nightshift. Very occasionally, the surgeon might. Everyone has them pulled before they're transferred to the IMCU- usually on their first post-op am. When I worked in the west,9 yrs ago,everyone was sent to the step-down unit with cts in place. Don't think they do it that way any longer though. I'm quite sure most nurses in the unit would not be interested in taking on this procedure,thank you very much! We've enough 'Delegated Medical Acts' on our plates right now, plus more being added - like doing our own dialysis- oh,joy!!
Nurses are playing increasingly important roles in the ICU/CCU. It is not uncommon to see nurses remove central lines or arterial lines or endotracheal/ trach tubes. Therefore I see no reason why they cannot remove Intercostal tubes. Like any procedure, it is important that the RN are properly oriented to the relevant issues and initially supervised by previously trained RNs.
:rotfl: All 3 CT's are removed at once by the PA or MD. They are removed at the same time becuase the amount of pain is not associated with the # of tubes removed but the actual removal. So if they were removed separately the patient would have the same amt of pain 3 times. We give pain med immediately prior to removal. We have a couple of Dr's who in addition to pain med give 1-2mg of Versed. The patients that recieve the versed do not usually even remember having their tubes pulled.I WORK IN A BUSY CCU/ICU DEPT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF CHEST TUBES. DO RN'S IN YOUR HOSPITAL REMOVE CHEST TUBES S/P CABG 12-24 HOUR POST-OP? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RN'S WHO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS TASK. I AM NOT. I NEVER HAVE BEEN CHECKED OFF OR TAUGHT THIS PROCEDURE ON A FRESH HEART.
:rotfl: All 3 CT's are removed at once by the PA or MD. They are removed at the same time becuase the amount of pain is not associated with the # of tubes removed but the actual removal. So if they were removed separately the patient would have the same amt of pain 3 times. We give pain med immediately prior to removal. We have a couple of Dr's who in addition to pain med give 1-2mg of Versed. The patients that recieve the versed do not usually even remember having their tubes pulled.I WORK IN A BUSY CCU/ICU DEPT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF CHEST TUBES. DO RN'S IN YOUR HOSPITAL REMOVE CHEST TUBES S/P CABG 12-24 HOUR POST-OP? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RN'S WHO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS TASK. I AM NOT. I NEVER HAVE BEEN CHECKED OFF OR TAUGHT THIS PROCEDURE ON A FRESH HEART.
rstewart
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The fact is if you pull enough chest tubes you will experience a complication. After witnessing a couple of major bleeds over the course of my career I would have to say that this is one task I will cheerfully leave for the docs and midlevels.