future entry-level ed for crna's

[IBorg]

just curious, have recently heard that in the future -- like 5 yrs from now that entry level education for a CRNA will be a PhD. Is this something that is being tossed around by the powers to be and if so, what would be the implications for those of us about to start our Master's prep as entry level ed for being a CRNA. If anyone has any insight, would be interested to hear what it is. Had also heardd that some states are trying to get resp therapists trained to deliver anesthesia, is this what they call A,A.'s. Thanks in advance for any input to this.

[Katnip, RN]

If they make entry level a PhD., then you just about might as well become an MD. Not a whole lot of difference in time it seems to me. Just the few years of residency.

[hbscott]

And the ANA Position Paper of 1965 proposed that all nurses would have a BSN entry level by now. So it goes...

-HBS

[meandragonbrett]

I believe that is for program directors and educators only.

[CRNA, DNSc]

The discussions at the last Assembly of School Faculty involved the evolution of the entry level degree to from the Masters to the Clinical Doctorate. This is not necessarily the PhD. The newest field to embark on this type of transition is physical therapy moving toward the DPT (doctor of physical therapy), we shall see what develops!!!!!

[alansmith52]

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yeah, pharm D's pt'D's if we don't we'll be the only ones soon. I wonder what it will do the the education process... hu, seems like we should have doctorates by now anyway. if I had chosen social work or phsycololgy I would have long since had my doctorate.

[Brenna's Dad]

I hear you alan, I'm sure I've been going to school for my entire life and must have completed enough credits to be a PhD in anything. Ah, the joys of nursing.

I fully support the Clinical Doctorate for CRNAs. Not necessarily as entry into practice, but definitely as an option for those who would like to continue their education or become program faculty.

[loisane]

I hear you alan I'm sure I've been going to school for my entire life and must have completed enough credits to be a PhD in anything. Ah, the joys of nursing.[/quote']

Actually, this is just what some people are saying. That nurse anesthesia education is ALREADY nearly at the clinical doctorate level. And it would only take a few additions to bring our entry level programs up to a clinical/practice doctorate level.

So it is about recognizing what people are already achieving, rather than actually moving the bar upward.

You know, an MD is another example of a clinical/practice doctorate :-0

loisane crna

[SirJohnny]

All:

- Someone here mentioned "Clinical Doctorate for CRNAs".

- Is there a doctoral degree specifically for CRNAs that one can go for after entering the field?

- Side note: I too have been going to school forever - and am just getting started. Eight years so far -- BS-Applied Math(4), BS-Comp Sci(2), MS-Comp Sci(2), and let's not forget the last 12 months (A&P101/A&P102/Micro).

- Gotta run, thanks.

John Coxey

Evansville, Indiana

[NCgirl]

From what I hear, if SRNA's were given full credit hours for all the time we spend in the OR, we'd be extremely close to having a clinical doctorate. But surprise-the ASA is fighting this tooth and nail!