Becoming a CRNA - From One Who Did It

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Looking over this bulletin board, I noticed that there were few CRNA's posting, and a large number of people interested in becoming CRNA's posting. There seem to be a lot of questions. I had a lot of help from others in becoming a CRNA, and this is a good chance to pay some of that back. I graduated from Newman University (Wichita, Kansas) just last August. For now, I'll try to answer some of the questions I've noticed are most commonly asked about becoming a CRNA, and what it is like when you are done. If anyone has other questions, I'll try to check this board every so often, and answer those questions, if I can.

First, if you are in school now, nursing or otherwise, its time to start working hard. Pay particular attention to your nursing and science classes. When considering applicants, most schools look not only at the overall GPA, but at the grades the applicant received in the science and nursing courses. Anesthesia school is tough, with heavy emphasis on science. They need a yardstick to determine whether an applicant can handle the heavy course load they will be required to take. Past performance is always a place they begin.

Look around, do some research on the various schools of Nurse Anesthesia. There is a great deal of variation in programs. For example, length of these programs range from 2 to 3 years. Narrow the possibilities down to two or three schools. Then, contact the Program Director or Advisor to find out what requirements you must meet to be accepted to the program. If you have a chance, talk with the Director, and find out what you can do to make yourself a more attractive applicant. While there is currently a shortage of nurse anesthetists, there is no shortage of applicants for the relatively few school seats each year. The competition is stiff, and you must make yourself as attractive as possible.

Every program that I am aware of requires at least one year of experience in an ICU. I am aware of no program that accepts ER, OR, or any other type experience. This may frustrate you, it may not seem fair, and it may not make sense, but trust me, there are good reasons for this requirement. Not all programs require adult ICU experience. One of my classmates' experience was in NICU. Check with the programs you intend to apply to about what specific experience they require.

Once you have applied and been accepted, get ready. Every anesthetist I have ever talked to has said that anesthesia school was the toughest, most demanding thing they had ever done. (The most stressful was taking boards, but that is another story.) My own life is a good example. Before becoming a nurse, I was in the US Army, and attended the Defense Language Institute to study Russian. This was a full year, total immersion program. It was not even half as tough as anesthesia school. Brush up on your anatomy, particularly the anatomy of the airway and nervous system. Know the autonomic nervous system as well as you can. Be ready to study, study, and study some more. Plan on at least two hours study time for every hour you spend in class.

Working while in full time anesthesia school is difficult, at best. Working full time is impossible. Don't try it, you will only harm yourself.

So, what is life as a CRNA like? That depends on where you work. I work for an anesthesia group with both Nurse anesthetists and anesthesiologists. My average work day begins between 6 and 6:30 am, and I work until anywhere from 3 pm to whenever (the longest day I have had was 19 hours). I do anesthesia for all kinds of cases, from simple general surgery to open heart surgery, vascular surgery, and neurological surgery. Nurse anesthetists perform anesthesia, pure and simple. I see my patients before the surgery, plan the anesthetic, and perform all phases of the anesthetic. I put in arterial lines, central lines, and Swan Ganz catheters. I am also able to do regional anesthesia (spinals, epidurals, and regional blocks), but the group where I work does few of these. The only kind of anesthesia I don't currently do is obstetric, because the group I work for does not do OB.

I think the average starting salary for a nurse anesthetist is $85,000 to $110,000 annually, not including benefits, which can be, and usually are substantial. Many places not only have the salary, but also pay overtime. (Do the math. It makes staying late a whole lot easier.) Someone on this board said that some CRNA's only earn $60,000. I am not aware of any full time position with a salary that low.

I am extremely satisified with my career choice. I love doing anesthesia. I find it fun, interesting, and challenging. I have more independence and more responsibility than any other advanced practice nurse I know.

As I said earlier, I'll be happy to answer any specific questions I can. I'd prefer those questions be posted here, so I don't have to repeatedly answer the same questions. Rest assured, you won't be the only one with that question.

Kevin McHugh, CRNA

Isn't that the truth. I wish I would have heard that bit of advise about six weeks ago.

I am one semester away from finishing my bacholors. I was starting to get kind of "geddy" Like if you've ever ridden a horse you know that when your almost home; the horse knows it. They know that there is food and water waiting for them so they have a tendency to just take off and leave the rider.

this was me about six weeks ago. while in the midst of a very intensive advanced pathophys class I started studing for the gre needless to say one test paid the price before I got my head back in the game. Luckily I will still be able to pull out an A but I've had to really try and stay on task with whats important now.

matt RN :imbar :imbar :imbar

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this site and I really like it. All of the tips and info is great. I graduated with a BS in Biology, then went on to get my AS in Nursing. From what I can tell, I can apply for CRNA school even though I do not have a Bachelors in Nursing, because biology is a closely related field. I graduated 6yrs ago with my Nursing degree and 8 years ago with my Biology degree. Also I still need ICU experience. By the time I get a couple of years experience in ICU, it will have been 10 years since finishing my first degree. Will this pose a problem for me getting into CRNA school?

Bubba

This will pose no problem in most programs that I am aware of. Most programs require a nursing degree that makes you an RN, and a bachelor's degree, not necessarily in nursing. An interesting note: The program director of the school I attended had obtained his RN and CRNA both from diploma programs. I don't remember what his bachelor's degree was in, but I'm pretty sure both his masters and PhD were in adult education.

An exception to this might be the programs that have MSN degrees. They may require a BSN, but I don't know. Many (if not most) programs end up granting an MSNA (Master of Science Nurse Anesthesia). The big advantage to me of these programs is that there are a couple of courses required for MSN that MSNA programs are not required to have (nursing theory, for example).

One other thought: Most programs only require one year of ICU experience. That's plenty of time to learn what you will need for the CRNA program. If you want, or feel you need more, fine. But there is no real need to exceed the requirement before applying.

Kevin McHugh

Kevin, thanks for taking the time to post. Such a great resource, greatly appreciated.

Steve...

Kevin,

Thanks for the reply. I have another question. I know some CRNA's have a deal with the military or with an anesthesia group before they go to school. What about those who don't? Where is the best place to start looking for a position after getting out of CRNA school?

bubba

Sorry this reply took so long. I've been having computer problems. Don't worry about finding a position. There are literally positions all over the US. Start looking on the internet, you'll be suprised at how many jobs there are. The best part is sorting out where you want to work, according to location, pay, and benefits.

Also, once you start anesthesia school, you will be literally bombarded with offers. If there is a shortage where you attend school, there will be competition among the anesthesia groups to get you signed. Also, you will receive 2-10 mailers a week, from anesthesia groups and headhunters for positions nationwide. The only thing I would say about this is to be careful dealing with head hunters. They get paid (by the anesthesia group) after you sign the contract, so will likely tell you anything to get you into a position. I've seen that more than once.

In short, for the foreseeable future, don't worry about finding a good position. There are lots of them out there.

Kevin McHugh

I have to totally agree with Kevin, I have already been aproached once by a head hunter. I am guessing that she found me by searching on the internet somehow. She found my photo website and contacted me through it.

The funny part, is I have not even started school I just got my paperwork today to register.

I was considering the military, but now feel that I will be able to pay off any loans I incure and therefore, don't want to tie myself down with a military commitment.

Craig

BTW I am experimenting with an online journal about my SRNA experiences. Let me know what you think. It is short on content as yet, but that is understandable, since I have not started yet.

http://www.nilepoc.com/srnablog/blogger.html

Craig,

Just read your journal and must say it is very intresting following your moves. Seems you'll be ok now that you're wife got the position--good luck and keep us posted. I start CRNA school at Virginia Commonwealth University in August and can't wait. I'll stay in touch so we can compare experiences.

loved your journal nilepoc, i will be following you.....the best of luck to you! and kmchugh you are the best.... : )

seri

Kevin, thank you for taking the time to write such informative posts. Your efforts are truly appreciated! Grouchy

Hi please remember we're not all in the USA?

What does CRNA stand for?

CRNA

Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist

Kevin McHugh

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