Hello all, wanting feedback form the group. I am a new grad RN, still I guess, been working a total of 9 months private duty thru agency. Was just offered a field/ case management position w/ same agency at what I think is a ridiculous pay- 18.50/hr hour. Right now my rate for a shift is $25/hr and I'd like to do no less than this. My responsibilities would be supervision of 100 plus lvns, pt case load of 60: recerts , discharge visits and intermittent visits for only 2 pts. My territory would be a 100 mile radius and I get a gas allowance. I think this is a fantastic opportunity for which I'm very grateful....but the rate is worrisome. I meet w/ the owner next week to finalize things and I plan on counter offering. I'm just not sure how to do so or what justification I could use...besides that I live in Southern California and cant live off 18.50....(which is their lvn rate by the way). Any thoughts on how I should go about negotiating or if I should just be grateful and shut up?
Thank you in advance
Jen
ps this is a repost from CM forum since no one answered over there!
Specializes in home health & nonprofit management.
very interesting turn of events today. my salary was reneged and management offered me per diem rate instead citing medi-cals undecided budget. they also asked me to do my training for the rest of the week with no pay since i'm just observing...
considering the territory, cost of gas, supervisory responsibilities and slap in the face i had to turn them down. i requested to resume my shift work. i'll probably be watching opra tomorrow while getting my mani -pedi
Somebody probably went and soaked their head in a bucket of cold water. You need to get away permanently because you will be on the bad girl list now and they will be lowering your shift rate of pay in a few days or weeks.
Specializes in home health & nonprofit management.
I know in my gut youre right. I haven't heard from them yet and I'm not waiting around. I'm not even upset over the sheer lack of respect- its just business and I've gotta take care of mine. I'm not going to even pretend this is about pt care- health care is a business, bottom line and RN's are a business expense . See who you can get to work as cheap as possible. Thanks for your fabulous feedback, its been extremely helpful. Have a terrific day!
Specializes in home health & nonprofit management.
Thank you Cali! I was hoping for a call today so I could finalize my request to go back to shift but no such luck. I am going to call tomorrow as a formality and a way of ending this civilly. I hope to find work soon elsewhere, its tough and it took almost 5 months to land this one. i hate being out there again in such a dismal market but oh well....
I have found that they really go all out to blatantly insult the out of work person in this lousy economy. I really see no need to lie to the unemployment people. If you don't want to pay the unemployment, then give the dumb jerk some work. Pay them the lowest wages as added insult. But then, the work is still here or there, just enough to stop the unemployment, two to three times the regular distance away, in the worst of the worst places to work, under the worst of conditions. This is home health at its worst.
Specializes in Functional Medicine, Holistic Nutrition.
Gingilly- You should be counting your blessings that this did not work out. Supervising 100+ LVNs and only having to the do the recerts???? You realize that you would still be listed as the case manager and responsible for the care that the LVN is providing...this could be a very bad situation that would jeopardize your license. It is really for the best that it didn't work out.
Specializes in home health & nonprofit management.
This is the exact reason I can't do this per diem. I can not justify 60 bucks for a 45 minute case thats close to a 100 miles away. Not even 50 miles away. Thats absolutely silly and I'm broke not stupid. They tried to play on desperation and yes its very insulting. I'm very fortunate to have a gainfully employed spouse and live well below our means so I don't have to grovel the way they wanted. But really? Really? Only a fool would jump for this and that they'd offer it on a bed of roses says a lot.....
Gingilly
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Amen! And thats awful to think a national employer can get away with such low wages. Just a shame because I know these employers are not broke.