BSN not all its cracked up to be

[JOLLIEHOLLY]

JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW, I AM NOT KNOCKING THE BSN PREPARED NURSE. HOWEVER, I AM AN R.N., AND WHERE I AM EMPLOYED THE BSN NURSES MAKE NO MORE WAGE THAN AN ADN NURSE, WHICH I DISAGREE WITH, YOU SHOULD MAKE MORE MONEY WITH MORE EDUCATION, IT JUST MAKES SENSE. I ALSO NOTICE WHEN NURSING STUDENTS COME IN TO CLINICALS ON MY FLOOR THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ADN AND BSN STUDENTS. THERE ARE TWO MAJOR NURSING SCHOOLS IN MY CITY, ONE AN ADN AND ONE A BSN. THE BSN SCHOOL HAS A 66% PASS RATE ON THE NCLEX RN. THE ADN HAS A 93% PASS RATE. REASON? MOST OF THE BSN STUDENTS ARE RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, HAVE NO OTHER OBLIGATION THAN COLLEGE, MOMMY AND DADDY TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING ON THE FINANCIAL FRONT, SO IF THEY FAIL IT IS NOT AS MUCH OF HIT. ON TOP OF ALL THAT THEY LEARN THE "THEORY OF NURSING", AND NOT HOW TO BE A NURSE. I SEE COUNTLESS BSN STUDENTS THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLACE A BP CUFF, OR PUT A PATIENT ON A BEDPAN!! TYPICALLY ADN STUDENTS ARE OLDER, FULL TIME WORKERS, AND HAVE FAMILIES, SO A LOT MORE IS ON THE LINE. I FULLY PLAN TO GO FOR MY MSN, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT IS A BETTER DECISION TO GET YOUR RN FIRST, GO INTO THE FIELD, AND THEN FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION. NOTHING AGAINST YOUNG STUDENTS EITHER, FOR I WAS 23 WHEN I STARTED NURSING SCHOOL. I HAD TWO CHILDREN, PAID FOR ALL MY SCHOOLING, AND WORKED FULL TIME ON TOP OF NURSING SCHOOL. I BELIEVE NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN STOP YOU IF YOU WANT SOMETHING BAD ENOUGH. BEST OF LUCK TO ALL IN PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS IN YOUR CAREER.

[Lightning Bug RN]

To hire someone because they have more education over someone who has more experience in a certain area is not something I would do.

I will say this, there are some people that make wonderful students, they are career students. They get wonderful grades, or maybe not so wonderful grades, but they stay in school and keep on going. Just because someone is booksmart, or financially able to continue with higher education, does not always make a better nurse. Or pilot, or accountant, or doctor.

I had a clueless clinical instructor with a masters, but the best clinical instructor was the instructor with an associates degree from the community college. So how short sighted to dismiss someone for their level of education. Thank goodness my school hired the associate nurse, the one who taught us the most.

I respect the nurses with a masters, and with the bachelors degree. I am responding to your comments.

But you in your life experience you would hire someone solely on their level of education. I would much better have a nurse that has worked for years on the floor, than a nurse who solely who was hired because of her level of education.

What a recipe for disaster and disapointment if everyone thought like you. Thats a real morale booster. Right.. Other nurses end up picking up the slack for the higher paid less productive, much more thought of(by your opinion) team player. That makes alot of sense.

Good luck in your nursing studies. It is a long road. One that you will find very educating.

Could not have said it better myself!

[Beggar♂]

Personally [b']all other things being equal[/b], I would choose to hire people with more education rather than less in any line of work.

To hire someone because they have more education over someone who has more experience in a certain area is not something I would do.

But you in your life experience you would hire someone solely on their level of education.

Again, let me say "all other things being equal".

Of course I wouldn't hire someone solely on their level of education.

Neither do I value education over experience. Quite the opposite, in fact. In the profession I'm leaving, you may not even sit for the licensing exam until you've worked, post-college, for four years and then obtained references from other licensed folks.

I was simply trying to distinguish between a license, the RN, and an education.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

To hire someone because they have more education over someone who has more experience in a certain area is not something I would do.

I will say this, there are some people that make wonderful students, they are career students. They get wonderful grades, or maybe not so wonderful grades, but they stay in school and keep on going. Just because someone is booksmart, or financially able to continue with higher education, does not always make a better nurse. Or pilot, or accountant, or doctor.

I had a clueless clinical instructor with a masters, but the best clinical instructor was the instructor with an associates degree from the community college. So how short sighted to dismiss someone for their level of education. Thank goodness my school hired the associate nurse, the one who taught us the most.

I respect the nurses with a masters, and with the bachelors degree. I am responding to your comments.

But you in your life experience you would hire someone solely on their level of education. I would much better have a nurse that has worked for years on the floor, than a nurse who solely who was hired because of her level of education.

What a recipe for disaster and disapointment if everyone thought like you. Thats a real morale booster. Right.. Other nurses end up picking up the slack for the higher paid less productive, much more thought of(by your opinion) team player. That makes alot of sense.

Good luck in your nursing studies. It is a long road. One that you will find very educating.

Interesting. NLN schools require a minimum of BSN to teach in a clnical setting, a Masters in the Classroom, and a certain number PhD's if you're a BSN program.

We call can up with with stories of the ADN who out performs the BSN in many settings in teaching, management and floor nursing. The best nurse I know is an LPN I work with....bar none she's my role model on how to take care of patients. The last clinical group of ADN students sought her out because she loved working with them.

Still that doesn't say anything but that she's a good nurse. It doesn't say to me "LPNs are better nurses." The same as your experience doesn't tell me that ADNs are better clinical instructors than a Masters prepared nurse.

I one should definately hire according to degree in every job description. Because an experience ADN like myself is priceless (if I do say so myself. LOL)