Assessing Anxiety, SOB, nausea in patients that can not rate the symptom

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I recently did an audit and found that nurses were not using the scales in our EMR to assign a number to a symptom.

The rationale I received was "well they can't tell me a number so I cannot complete a numerical scale.

In all my years of nursing I have never heard this. I have always used the objective data of what I see during the pt assessment and document the number I feel bst describes the symptom.

I have looked for scales and other than the PAINAD, I do not see many 1-10 tools to assist.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thank you

Our weatherbee forms are very specific on pain, not so much SOB/nausea and nonverbal indicators. I use a FLACC scale informally, and just "paint the picture" in great detail of what I see as the patient's experience/response to interventions in my narrative.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

Clearly it is easier to quantify the symptom burden of a verbal and cognitively intact patient. I advocate the use of something like the Edmonton tool.

http://www.npcrc.org/files/news/edmonton_symptom_assessment_scale.pdf

When our patient's are nonverbal or obtunded it is probably most accurate to simply describe their symptoms using standard language.

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