Published Jul 21, 2011
Benlorr
4 Posts
So I just relocated here in Toronto and I am dead-set on taking the BScN program at my local George Brown School. However, my heart sank when I found out that registration was in Nov. 1, Offers of Admission in Feb. 1, and it starts in September. As it stands now I have about 1.4 years to wait for that.
Are there any preparation courses or specific University credit courses I can take in the meantime?
My education level is a high school diploma and 5 prerequisite to RN classes from California so please don't be afraid to get down to basics when it comes to the education system here in Toronto. I need all the help I can get. Also how tough/competitive is the admissions for the BScN program?
Thanks you.
tca_2015
2 Posts
Look into ouac.
Best wishes.
found this too: http://www.healthforceontario.ca/Studying/international_admission_criteria.aspx
27400
187 Posts
Take electives so that you don't have to take them when you entre nursing school... talk to an advisor.
Yeah but can you specify which advisor? The counselor in GB is only available if you are already registered I believe. Should I call the Head of Nursing Dept.? Her number is on the College Info Booklet.
Daisy_08, BSN, RN
597 Posts
take electives, look in to athabasca u. they are online and you get to decide when you to take the exams. be careful not to take any courses with the same material that will be in your core nursing classes things like nutrition, anatomy or healthcare topics. take history, english, psych, social studies. due to how demanding the course is most take all of the electives during the summers. this way you can have your summers off......to work most likely, but still.
good luck and welcome!
SashaD
19 Posts
So the program at George Brown College is a collaborative degree with Ryerson University and Centennial College. When you finish your 4 years, your degree will actually say a Collaborative BScN, with all three sites on them. What does this mean? Well, students at each of the sites for the first two years, take all the same courses. The exam dates and times for the core nursing courses are actually all on the same day for all 3 sites, so students don't phone their friends at the other sites and tell them what was on the exam. The courses at George Brown College and Centennial for the BScN are actually all University courses.
When you finish 2nd year, all students from George Brown College and Centennial College join their counterparts at Ryerson University, where they'll finish their academic programs (years 3 and 4) there.
So what does this mean for you? Well, its actually great news. Ryerson has one of the biggest continuing education programs in the Country through the Chang School of Continuing education at Ryerson University.
In the BScN, each year you will be required to take lower liberals, upper liberals and professional electives. I would suggest that if you have all the prerequisites to enter the nursing program, you start taking these electives at Ryersons Chang School ASAP. That way, you won't have to do them during the year, which will make your courseload easier and will allow you to concentrate on your core nursing subjects, which cannot be taken there.
Before I entered the nursing program, I took Nutrition for nursing, two lower liberals, and intro to psychology. While other students during their first year struggled juggling these courses with their nursing courses, some of whom actually ended failing or barely passing, I was able to concentrate solely on my nursing core subjects and had a crazy high GPA. You will become a smarter nursing student with less stress,and its a great way to start your academic career. After first year, I took some elective courses for second year during the summer. The disadvantage to this is you will be paying more money. The electives I spoke of are included in your yearly tuition. If you take them in the summer, you will have to pay more, so thats the downside for some people. If you can afford it though, take them as I have suggested. You will thank me once you really get into your nursing course load and see how heavy it is. I was actually able to work part time during the year because my course load was easier, which enabled me to pay for my courses during the summer. Ask yourself, why take the psychology during the year if you can finish it off during the summer? PSYCHOLOGY IS A VERY HEAVY SUBJECT - GET IT OUT OF THE WAY!!!! Lots of students did what I did if that offers you any kind of reassurance.
You're actually in a very good position IMO. My advice, get the syllabus, find out what these electives are, and then check with Ryerson if you can take these through their continuing education department. Once you finish the course, they are automatically transferred. I'm sure you're thinking that they won't be transferred because you intend on going to George Brown COllege. I repeat....THEY ARE THE SAME PROGRAM. Talk to either Ryerson School of Nursing or George Brown School of Nursing for clarification.
One more thing though, make sure you have all the pre-requisites to enter the program such as Chemistry, etc, etc. Without them, you may not be admitted as, it is quite competitive. Go to the Ryerson nursing department, and talk to them there and ask them what are the pre-requisites if you're applying as a mature student. I'm assuming thats what you're doing. Either way, this will give you an opportunity to talk about the credits you already have. I repeat...... It is all exactly the same courses for both schools. I should know, I just graduates with a Collaborative BSCN from the Collaborative Ryerson, Centennial, George Brown program. Good luck and message me if you have any other questions.
P.S. A lot of the courses that I spoke of are online during the summer. I actually took nutrition for nursing online. FYI
@SASHAD, Actually I AM a bit confused as to what "mature" student means. Is it someone who DID NOT graduate high school but is earning enough credits through classes? Or is it anyone who is OLDER THAN 19 regardless of the education level. They don't use that term often in the States I am afraid. =(
I can tell you that I graduated High School in the States and only took a FEW college classes because money was tight. I actually completed Psychology 1 with an A (highest grade in the US) so I'm hoping my college credits will transfer as well. As far as high school chem, bio, or English I passed all those in High School. I even took and passed English 101 in college. The GB booklet states that all the prerequisites are only high school level of those subjects. Care to share your experience regarding prerequisites because I am unsure.
As far as the electives, will I be able to qualify for OSAP or bursaries if I do go to school? Again, I am a complete beginner with the higher education system in Canada.
Appreciate your help by the way.
So the program at George Brown College is a collaborative degree with Ryerson University and Centennial College. When you finish your 4 years, your degree will actually say a Collaborative BScN, with all three sites on them. What does this mean? Well, students at each of the sites for the first two years, take all the same courses. The exam dates and times for the core nursing courses are actually all on the same day for all 3 sites, so students don't phone their friends at the other sites and tell them what was on the exam. The courses at George Brown College and Centennial for the BScN are actually all University courses.When you finish 2nd year, all students from George Brown College and Centennial College join their counterparts at Ryerson University, where they'll finish their academic programs (years 3 and 4) there. So what does this mean for you? Well, its actually great news. Ryerson has one of the biggest continuing education programs in the Country through the Chang School of Continuing education at Ryerson University. In the BScN, each year you will be required to take lower liberals, upper liberals and professional electives. I would suggest that if you have all the prerequisites to enter the nursing program, you start taking these electives at Ryersons Chang School ASAP. That way, you won't have to do them during the year, which will make your courseload easier and will allow you to concentrate on your core nursing subjects, which cannot be taken there. Before I entered the nursing program, I took Nutrition for nursing, two lower liberals, and intro to psychology. While other students during their first year struggled juggling these courses with their nursing courses, some of whom actually ended failing or barely passing, I was able to concentrate solely on my nursing core subjects and had a crazy high GPA. You will become a smarter nursing student with less stress,and its a great way to start your academic career. After first year, I took some elective courses for second year during the summer. The disadvantage to this is you will be paying more money. The electives I spoke of are included in your yearly tuition. If you take them in the summer, you will have to pay more, so thats the downside for some people. If you can afford it though, take them as I have suggested. You will thank me once you really get into your nursing course load and see how heavy it is. I was actually able to work part time during the year because my course load was easier, which enabled me to pay for my courses during the summer. Ask yourself, why take the psychology during the year if you can finish it off during the summer? PSYCHOLOGY IS A VERY HEAVY SUBJECT - GET IT OUT OF THE WAY!!!! Lots of students did what I did if that offers you any kind of reassurance.You're actually in a very good position IMO. My advice, get the syllabus, find out what these electives are, and then check with Ryerson if you can take these through their continuing education department. Once you finish the course, they are automatically transferred. I'm sure you're thinking that they won't be transferred because you intend on going to George Brown COllege. I repeat....THEY ARE THE SAME PROGRAM. Talk to either Ryerson School of Nursing or George Brown School of Nursing for clarification. One more thing though, make sure you have all the pre-requisites to enter the program such as Chemistry, etc, etc. Without them, you may not be admitted as, it is quite competitive. Go to the Ryerson nursing department, and talk to them there and ask them what are the pre-requisites if you're applying as a mature student. I'm assuming thats what you're doing. Either way, this will give you an opportunity to talk about the credits you already have. I repeat...... It is all exactly the same courses for both schools. I should know, I just graduates with a Collaborative BSCN from the Collaborative Ryerson, Centennial, George Brown program. Good luck and message me if you have any other questions. P.S. A lot of the courses that I spoke of are online during the summer. I actually took nutrition for nursing online. FYI
Sorry I wanted to make sure you got my reply by quoting you. My real reply is the one above.
http://www.ryerson.ca/calendar/2011-2012/pg87.html What a mature student is according to Ryerson University.
Contact Admissions (http://www.ryerson.ca/undergraduate/admission/guidance/) and they'll direct you to a person who is knowledgable about the program and can give you direction as what you can do prior attending the Nursing Program. When my sister was trying to decide which university she wanted to go to she was able to speak with a counsellor even when she was not in the program yet.
http://www.ryerson.ca/nursing/prospectivestudents/collaborative/index.html More info about the program.
There's just too much info to write about this particular program and many factors that might sway you from doing one thing over another. It's better to get your info straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.
I think you have to contact Ryerson about what constitutes as mature status. It has something to do with being out of school for X amount of years and a person's age. I agree, contact the Ryerson School of Nursing for direction. That way you will know for sure what kind of prerequisites are required to be admitted into the program!