ANA & ONA

elkpark · Oct 1, 2009

I'm not sure what you mean by the ANA should "better commit" to this. As far as I know, the ANA has supported and promoted this idea for decades -- they're just not having much success getting the larger nursing community to jump on the bandwagon.

khazel2002 · Oct 2, 2009

Hmmm...this sounds like a ILA from Nursing 413:Stewardship...

KristiePDX · Oct 2, 2009

Yes, I think I have enough homework to do......

OregonBSN · Oct 9, 2009

I'm not sure what you mean by the ANA should "better commit" to this. As far as I know, the ANA has supported and promoted this idea for decades -- they're just not having much success getting the larger nursing community to jump on the bandwagon.

That is exactly my point. They have supported it for decades but have done little to move it forward. Perhaps the should have a more aggressive stance on the BSN requirement.

The ONA director recently spoke to our 416 Stewardship class, and she masterfully maneuvered around my query regarding the ANA position and the ONA not formally supporting the BSN requirement. She stated the OCNE partially filled the need, but why is OHSU the only option for a BSN in that program? Why are the other BSN programs not an option for these OCNE students?

elkpark · Oct 9, 2009

That is exactly my point. They have supported it for decades but have done little to move it forward. Perhaps the should have a more aggressive stance on the BSN requirement.

I'm still not sure what you think these organizations should do. They are voluntary professional associations, not regulatory boards, accrediting organizations, etc. They don't have any power to make anyone in nursing do what they want -- in fact, only a very tiny percentage of US nurses (I don't recall exactly, but it's in the single digits -- 6%?) belong to the ANA/state NAs. The ANA has aggressively promoted this position for several decades now (which is one of the reasons many nurses won't join!), but they haven't convinced anywhere near the majority of US nurses or more than one state legislature (North Dakota, which passed a BSN-minimum requirement but rescinded it several years later). The BSN-as-entry-level concept is highly controversial, and just doesn't have much support across the board (I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, just that that's the way it is).

CuriousMe · Oct 19, 2009

That is exactly my point. They have supported it for decades but have done little to move it forward. Perhaps the should have a more aggressive stance on the BSN requirement.
The ONA director recently spoke to our 416 Stewardship class, and she masterfully maneuvered around my query regarding the ANA position and the ONA not formally supporting the BSN requirement. She stated the OCNE partially filled the need, but why is OHSU the only option for a BSN in that program? Why are the other BSN programs not an option for these OCNE students?

At a guess I'd say the reason is that all the schools that participate in OCNE (including OHSU) changed their acceptance requirements (including prereqs), as well as their whole curriculum to conform to the OCNE standards and curriculum.

So, I'm an OCNE student at OHSU and I have friends that started the same time I did at an OCNE community college...for the first year and a half we take the same classes (same titles, course outcomes, core competencies, clinical grading rubrics...all of it the same). Spring term of the second year CC students do a preceptorship (as they're about to graduate) and OHSU students get to take populations, epidimiology, and Public Health (I think...not sure about public health).

The point is that last year is designed to dovetail with the OCNE curriculum that CC OCNE students have already been through. By the time I and my friends graduate with our BS degree's...we'll all have taken the same classes....although some of the last ones in a slightly different order.

Peace,

CuriousMe