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ClaireMacl · Dec 5, 2005

Paris,

I work in London, not sure where you are. Our ED ENP's are band 8a, which has caused a commotion between newly qualified ENP's and ENP's that have been top G for years, newly qualifieds are getting a huge payrise, the ones who have been doing it for years get nothing!

Madwife, interestingly, our ED has had an influx of ward E grades applying for E grades with us since we were graded band 6 and they were banded grade 5. They were most perplexed when asked if they could handle a trauma, triage patients etc and weren't offered the job. I'm sure it will cause some rifts through the hospital... but in this case, I think the division is right. Had I stayed on the wards, no doubt I would have been capable of going for the E grade after 1 year perhaps. In the ED I had to take many many courses and now, 3 years qualified, do traumas, arrests, triage etc making decision without a doctor that could kill someone if I do it wrong!

Given that there is banding within the bands, I don't think ward E grades should be so let down, the wages do differ greatly.

paris2 · Dec 30, 2005

Paris,
I work in London, not sure where you are. Our ED ENP's are band 8a, which has caused a commotion between newly qualified ENP's and ENP's that have been top G for years, newly qualifieds are getting a huge payrise, the ones who have been doing it for years get nothing!
Madwife, interestingly, our ED has had an influx of ward E grades applying for E grades with us since we were graded band 6 and they were banded grade 5. They were most perplexed when asked if they could handle a trauma, triage patients etc and weren't offered the job. I'm sure it will cause some rifts through the hospital... but in this case, I think the division is right. Had I stayed on the wards, no doubt I would have been capable of going for the E grade after 1 year perhaps. In the ED I had to take many many courses and now, 3 years qualified, do traumas, arrests, triage etc making decision without a doctor that could kill someone if I do it wrong!
Given that there is banding within the bands, I don't think ward E grades should be so let down, the wages do differ greatly.

hi

Our emergency ophthalmic NP's are based within the main A&E and are placed in band 6.They only deal with ophthalmic emergencies, any other emergencies are passed on to general A&E's NP's but not sure what band thay are in.

ClaireMacl · Dec 31, 2005

There are sooo many faults in banding coming out! I've found A&E depts in London who band 5 for E grades, where most band at 6. Experience not being taken into account in higher posts and, most importantly, the fact that agenda for change was supposed to take into account your qualifications post registration as well as responsibilities, yet there seems to be no actual differentiation!

I guess they are grading you as you are so specialised and therefore don't fit the very set in stone critera for banding, but how clearly unfair is that? I get opthalmic emergencies all the time in triage and have to advise them they may be advised to leave our hospital and go to the local eye hospital as we don't treat anything other than minor eye probs. Personally, although eyes aren't seen as life-threatening injuries, I see them as very serious and generally quite scary! Just because you are focusing on one part of the body surely shouldn't disadvantage you with pay!

Madwife's pay only goes to show how odd AFC is, I am paid slightly more than her, have 'only' the responsibility to support the junior members of staff and the shift leader with no actual managerial responsibilities. Mad!

Cxx

hi
Our emergency ophthalmic NP's are based within the main A&E and are placed in band 6.They only deal with ophthalmic emergencies, any other emergencies are passed on to general A&E's NP's but not sure what band thay are in.