I have a final on Wed. and on our final is the electrolyte and acid base imbalances. I know about the electrolytes but I'm still having trouble determining if the imbalances are compensated or not. I fanyone knows how to do this wouldn't care to explain it to me I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
Daytonite, BSN, RN 4 Articles; 14,603 Posts Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt. Has 40 years experience. Dec 8, 2008 you are talking about abgs. to determine if acidosis or alkalosis is compensated there is a sequence to follow:check the ph. if compensation has occurred the ph will be in normal range of 7.35-7.45check the co2 and hco3. if one is normal, look at the other and that is your culprit. co2 is the respiratory one and hco3 is the metabolic one. depending on if it is elevated or depressed tells you if it is acid or base.if both ions are out of whack, it is usually a respiratory alkalkosis that is being compensated.there are some practice problems on https://allnurses.com/forums/2488838-post46.htmlalso see this recent thread: https://allnurses.com/forums/f50/abg-help-349441.html
Hotflashn 362 Posts Dec 9, 2008 CO2 is a negative ion so it is basic; HCO3 is positive so it is alkalinic.I thought CO2 was a volatile acid, while HCO3 is the base in the buffer pair. I have my final tomorrow, so I better just go check!
Daytonite, BSN, RN 4 Articles; 14,603 Posts Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt. Has 40 years experience. Dec 9, 2008 i thought co2 was a volatile acid, while hco3 is the base in the buffer pair. i have my final tomorrow, so i better just go check!i am sorry. i was trying to explain how to assess compensation and didn't do a very good job of it. your information about hco3 being a base is correct.for the rules of diagnosing abgs and determining acidosis or alkalinity of a compensated sample, see the really nice table at the end of this paper that was posted on allnurses by another student: arterial blood gases basic principles.doc - guide to assessing blood gassesas far as interpreting abgs and compensation. . .http://instructors.butlercc.edu/nr202/lakous/abgs/abgs11.html - interpreting abgshttp://instructors.butlercc.edu/nr202/lakous/abgs/abgs12.html - there are types of compensationhttp://instructors.butlercc.edu/nr202/lakous/abgs/abgs15.html if ph is normal but pco2 and hco3 are abnormal this is fully compensatedif ph, pco2, & hco3 are all abnormal this is partially compensatedif ph is abnormal and either pco2 or hco3 are abnormal, but pco2 or hco3 are normal this is totally uncompensated.also, the body will compensate in an attempt to keep the ph within normal limitsif the disorder is metabolic, compensation is achieved by altering respirations-increasing or decreasing pco2 to bring ph to normal if the disorder is respiratory, compensation achieved by retaining or increasing excretion of bicarbonatepco2 forms carbonic acid so is considered an acidhigh pco2 causes ph to drop (toward acidosis)low pco2 causes ph to climb (toward alkalosis)hco3 (bicarbonate) is considered a basehigh hco3 causes ph to climb (toward alkalosis)low hco3 causes ph to drop (toward acidosis)http://www.rnceus.com/course_frame.asp?exam_id=18&directory=abgs - "interpretation of abgs: a four step method". at the left side of the page, click on "four steps of abg interpretation".look at the ph to determine:acidosis (below 7.35)normal or compensated (7.35 to 7.45)alkalosis (over 7.45)[*]what is pa co2 doing? this is the respiratory effect.alkalosis, causes high ph or normal low end ph (below 35)normal or compensated (35 to 45)acidosis, causes low ph, normal high end ph (over 45)if a respiratory cause is ruled out, then move on to the next step[*]what is the pahco3 doing (normal hco3- is 22-26)? this is the metabolic effect.high ph is alkalosisif the paco2 is high it is metabolic; if it is low it is respiratory[*]low ph is acidosisif the paco2 is high it is respiratory; if it is low it is metabolic[*]if paco2 is abnormal and ph is normal, it indicates compensation.ph > 7.4 would be a compensated alkalosis.ph
missmatched 57 Posts Dec 10, 2008 Here's a website that makes ABG's fun. just note that they may have different values than what your instructor tells you. In my school we go by PaCo2 of 35-45 and HCO3 of 22-26.I agree with Daytonite on how it works.http://www.vectors.cx/med/apps/abg.cgi