A bit confused about use of Ringer Lactate in blood loss

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Hello to you all, I am a nurse student in Italy and interested to become an EMT. 

I am a little bit confused whenever to give N/S 0,9 or Ringer Lactate to a *trauma*/injured patient, meaning a patient that has significant blood loss let's say after a bike accident. 

To get to the point, yesterday I witnessed a bike accident, a man of 50 years old was laying on the ground , his face was covered in blood and as a Doctor said from the crowd, this man had a severe Traumatic Brain Injury after he examined him. 

My question is, 1)Let's say EMTs arrive at the scene,patient has lost a lot of blood so he needs IV fluid to prevent Hypovolemic Shock. What is the best fluid to give to a Traumatic Brain injury patient? Months before I believed that RL was the best choice until a friend of mine (who is nurse)told me to N E V E R give Ringer Lactate to a Traumatic Brain Injury patient cause the brain edema will get worse. So in this case what fluid should you administer? Normal Saline will do the exact same thing, it will increase brain edema as it is also isotonic as RL, so that looks like a dead end to me. 

2) Now, speaking of a patient that has a significant blood loss NOT from a head injury, let's say he is bleeding from his leg or his hand, he is loosing much blood, as an EMT what is the best choice of fluid restoration? Should you give Normal Saline, Ringer Lactate or what to again, prevent a Hypovolemic shock and restore blood/fluid loss. 

 

In a few words, to put it simpler, what IV fluid is the best for a blood loss patient with hemorrhage from the head and not.  In what case should I use RL or Normal Saline ? 

Sorry if this is too long for you to read, and forgive any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, thank you! 

Specializes in Critical Care.

The best fluid for treating blood loss is blood.

It's certainly not unusual for providers to think of the problem with blood loss as being simply hypovolemia, and the easiest way to increase volume is with crystalloids, which increases volume but also decreases perfusion, possibly to the point of causing death.

I had a patient once that I just taken over the care of, who had just gotten 3 liters of NS bolus because they triggered sepsis criteria (elevated lactate, increase HR, decreased temp, low BP, etc)  But for some reason the provider didn't take into account that this was because the patient's Hgb was just under 4.  Further diluting that Hgb of led to an MI because now there just the occasional RBC making it's way to the myocardium.  Not sure that patient would have survived anyway but it definitely sucked that we made the situation worse by thinking of a patient actively bleeding out as just needing more volume, not more ability to carry oxygen to organs and tissues.

Generally, there are various studies involving different crystalloids in different medical conditions, these typically don't show significant differences between different types of crystalloids in terms of ultimate outcomes.  Basically, any additives that adjust the osmolarity of fluid to avoid cytotoxicity will work essentially the same.

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