Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. World General World Article

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system.

The Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you when it is time for an assessment or for treatments or for meds. When a member of the Royal Family is admitted to a unit he/she is accompanied by a minimum of 3 and up to 14 servants. This includes a private nurse. You will get to know this nurse well because you do not administer the meds, but rather give them to the private nurse who gives them to the patient.

There is a high degree of racial prejudice against persons of color, South Africans, Hindus, and Filipinos, in this hospital. They are not allowed to work in the Complex of the Royal Family. A nurse with an American passport is considered white and is highly sought after. Co-workers will go to the American nurse and take her along with them when they want to communicate a plan of treatment to a family member of a patient. She is introduced as an American nurse and does the speaking for the co-worker.

The lifestyles of the Royal Family have contributed to staggering poor health. By the time they are 40-50 years old, you will find patients in this unit, male and female, have osteoporosis from lack of activity. By the time they reach 50 most of these patients have often given up on life because they have nothing to do except indulge themselves. It is sad to see them on heparin because they choose to stay in bed. They can be observed sleeping all day and eating all night. Since they are royal, you cannot tell them what to do or how to do it, even if it is for their own good. A patient may be on an insulin drip for a week while gorging on food the whole time. These patients have an inordinate amount of cancer and genetic disorders, and one in three are diabetic. It is not unusual to see a handsome prince, dressed in pristine white, clean and sweet smelling, with a body wasted by muscle atrophy.

An order for DNR does not exist, except on paper. There are upwards of 6,000 members of the Saudi Royal Family. Each one is eligible to receive a share of the Family fortune, as it is doled out. Therefore, the aged and/or infirm are kept alive by all means possible. This hospital houses an entire wing of patients who are in persistent vegetative states or are on vents or other means of artificial life support. As long as they live, their family members have a closer link to the crown and they are eligible for stipends that will be managed by their guardians.

Advantages of working as a nurse in this outpost are notable.

American nurses command the highest rate of pay. Transportation, to and from Saudi for each assignment, is paid. A one year contract can include a 2 week paid vacation. A Re-up bonus for a second year is often offered. There is no Saudi tax to pay and very few living expenses since housing is provided. There may be favorable tax treatment by the IRS as well. Uniforms are provided and will be worn, without covering, only while on duty. At all other times, when in public, a nurse must be covered head to toe with the burka. Segregated swimming pools, tennis courts, and fitness centers, etc. are provided and offer diversion. Taxis or buses are available to provide transportation to leave the complex to go shopping or site-seeing. Everything in the shopping center seems to be made in China. But, the Super Markets are great. There, you will find food from all over the world. You can spend hours just tasting special imports of the best honey, or 28 different kinds of olives on the olive counters. Hint: You might find the sweet olives are horrible. However, you may never have seen such dates. They are to die for.

Disadvantages of going to this outpost need to be pointed out. American nurses are sometimes vulnerable because they can be naive. They have enjoyed the Constitutional protection of a democratic government. They do not always carefully consider that they do not have that same protection when they leave the borders of their homeland. A study of the customs and culture of the country to which they are going is a must. Most important is an understanding of the system of government and laws.

According to the U.S. Department Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2000-2001, this Islamic country is ruled by Sharia Law, and Women's Rights are virtually non-existent. Although a state of world-wide unrest exists with the Radical Islamic countries, because of oil reserves, a policy of appeasement has been adopted by the United States. Americans in Saudi Arabia must depend on this fragile relationship to continue in order to have a semblance of safety while they are in that country. It is important to know the facts and not live in the romantic fantasy of The Arabian Nights.

In Saudi Arabia, the government seems to be made up of a system of checks and balances. The Royal Family controls the money. Money is "Power". The Islamic Radicals are the Rulers because they interpret the Law of Sharia; a system of national laws derived from the Koran and the traditions of Mohammed. The Mutawwa'in are the religious police who are the enforcers of the Law. Religious Law is Civil Law in this country. Because it is interpreted literally, it is enforced without mercy. Sharia Law identifies anyone who is not a Muslim as an Infidel and an enemy. Muslims are specifically ordered to not befriend unbelievers. Mateen Elass explains the implications of this in her book, Understanding the Koran. According to standard Islamic jurisprudence, Sharia Law today interprets the Koran as obligating Muslims to be under the rule of expansionist jihad (holy war). This is understood as an armed struggle against unbelievers, whether or not the Muslim community had been attacked. This is a country that has a history of 1,600 years of revolutions, political assassinations, and massacres, and has ruled it's populace by subjection or death. Today, Arab media often incite Arabs to street rage and violence by feeding misinformation. You will remember that the world witnessed Muslims dancing in the streets, celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center 9/11.

There is a difference, between being a judgmental person and being a person of rational judgment, that is worth remembering. If you choose to go, Saudi Arabia, be careful about how you conduct yourself. Right now, the long arm of the U.S. Embassy gives a sense of safety. However, there are things that you must do to protect yourself from embarrassment, from derision, from humiliation, from attack, and from arrest. Be prepared for unwelcome gazes and advances from the Saudi men while you are working in your uniform. They have been brought up to believe that a woman who does not cover herself is available for sex or is a prostitute. Never accept an invitation to accompany a Saudi man anywhere for the same reason. He has an expectation that you can be bought and because of his wealth may offer very expensive jewels and gifts. Outside of your unit, you will always be covered with a Burka. You will ride in the back of a bus, by Law. You will not get into a Taxi unaccompanied because you cannot be alone with a man. Men and women are separated even in the Marketplace. If you want to buy a cup of coffee in Starbucks, you will go to a segregated area for women. Is Saudi Arabia a good idea for you? Only you can decide.

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Specializes in med/surg/tele/neuro/rehab/corrections.

I too have read "In the Land of Invisible Women" and found it to be very informative and interesting. I would recommend it to everyone who is interested in Saudi Arabia.

Also, the Helen Ziegler site has much information on nursing in KSA.

Great thread guys! :)

Specializes in PACU, OR.

Strange you say South Africans are not welcome in Saudi, I know several who have worked there. Re the royal family: clearly too much money is bad for you. Finding alternatives to fossil fuels may be regarded as A public service and a healthcare imperative...

i agree with Christine Cameron-Do, my best friend, who is African American muslim (speaks arabic fluently) has so many family members that live in Saudi arabia, and she told me the complete opposite of what was said from your post..

besides, we should look at our own backyards before bashing someone else's..How is american culture to you? maybe someone in the middle east will say, its trashy, "girls get pregnant at a young age,50% divorce rate, woman walk around naked in the beaches(i.e nude beaches), no modesty..woman are treated like trash, men leave there wife (or gf) only few months into a marriage or relationship.. no woman president (comparing from 3rd world countries like Pakistan/india that had woman leaders). SO much racism towards minorties.. the list can go on..

Therefore, every culture has its flaws..not one culture is superior over the other...

Specializes in OB, ER, M/S, Supervision - Acute care.

sad to say, the world is full of envy, greed, & pride, among many other evils. as members of the human family, we could all use an extra dose of generosity & humility.

Hello,

I was reading what you wrote about working in saudi Arabia and some of the things you said about the people are not nice. I'm a saudi nurse my self and NOT ALL SAUDI NURSES ARE LAZY. that was offensive and unacceptable. you cant generalize that all saudi nurses are lazy. just because you seen a sample of them doesn't mean all are the same. those nurses may have bigger responsibilities at home remember you came to Saudi to work and some may have left their families back home. so all you have on mind is work and save money. you should be grateful that you can work, get a good salary and save it all because you dont have to pay for anything. I'm in the USA now studying my masters so dont say all saudi nurses dont have motivation to learn and nooooooo i dont just eat and sleep. I wish you dont make saudi sound so bad. there are the good and the bad in every country. I do acknowledge that my people have faulty and can be challenging when dealing with them but isn't that in every culture.try to see the good in you experience in saudi and take the best of it back with you. Im doing the same here in the USA believe me.

this thread is good..i'm beginning to like the idea of working in KSA.. it uplifts my fear of going there..

Specializes in Critical Care/Coronary Care Unit,.

Very interesting. Saudi Arabia is never going to be on my list for potential travel assignments or vacation or anything. I like having rights. God Bless America.

Specializes in med/surg/tele/neuro/rehab/corrections.

It's interesting but the more I read about Saudi Arabia and more I want to go. Thank you Rasha for your comments! :)

your are most welcome :) you guys have great advantage of going to Saudi to work. our health care system needs nurses and specially APNs. what im trying to say is that you will have better salaries than other nationality nurses.Do you know that they put nurses from USA, England, Ireland, Australia.. in level A that means they get the highest salaries. Saudis are at level B so you will get even more salary than me... the best part is no tax and that is what i always hear from many foreign nurses in Saudi. I have had many nurses that i worked with say that they have enjoyed their stay in Saudi and that the don't regret going in the first place. Its a different experience specially with the big culture difference between the states and Saudi but its worth a try.

this is not to say whose country is better , its not a competition. So try not to compare any country to your country because each country has its culture and differences. you may see that we don't have rights but let me tell you i love my country and i would not trade it if i was paid. we have many advantages and im proud.

Specializes in currently in Medical.

Man ! i read teh whole the post.. and though i am late.. but i really enjoyed..

It was so descriptive form.. and beyond all the facts that you set.. Yet i believe that things are only from you prespective view.. other people may not see it the way you do .

Specializes in Cardiac.

salaam and hello

well I'm an American Muslim and just last year my family was in Saudi for a year-My husband taught at a Univ there. I am not a nurse-yet...but en'shallah will be soon! (I'm studying for the nursing exams right now)...its not all bad working/living in Saudi. Yes its not easy-like compared to life in the USA but if your salary is good and your compound is good, its not too bad. Some things do take adjustment but most foreigners go there with the intention of earning money, saving and going back home after a few years. Also, while yes some members of society are indeed lazy, some are hard working-just like anywhere else so one cant necessarily generalize, many Saudi's are extremely interested in working hard and improving their lives...not every Saudi is rich. There are many which are living hand-to-mouth and both husband and wife work hard to provide for their families. If your a little open minded you will learn a LOT and often make Saudi friends who want to show u their culture.

Just keep this in mind...also if your Muslim and coming from the west, the perk is ready access to Makkah and Medinah.

After I finish up my nursing degree (God willing) we are discussing going back for another year or two so I can work there for awhile.