Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. World General World Article

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system.

The Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you when it is time for an assessment or for treatments or for meds. When a member of the Royal Family is admitted to a unit he/she is accompanied by a minimum of 3 and up to 14 servants. This includes a private nurse. You will get to know this nurse well because you do not administer the meds, but rather give them to the private nurse who gives them to the patient.

There is a high degree of racial prejudice against persons of color, South Africans, Hindus, and Filipinos, in this hospital. They are not allowed to work in the Complex of the Royal Family. A nurse with an American passport is considered white and is highly sought after. Co-workers will go to the American nurse and take her along with them when they want to communicate a plan of treatment to a family member of a patient. She is introduced as an American nurse and does the speaking for the co-worker.

The lifestyles of the Royal Family have contributed to staggering poor health. By the time they are 40-50 years old, you will find patients in this unit, male and female, have osteoporosis from lack of activity. By the time they reach 50 most of these patients have often given up on life because they have nothing to do except indulge themselves. It is sad to see them on heparin because they choose to stay in bed. They can be observed sleeping all day and eating all night. Since they are royal, you cannot tell them what to do or how to do it, even if it is for their own good. A patient may be on an insulin drip for a week while gorging on food the whole time. These patients have an inordinate amount of cancer and genetic disorders, and one in three are diabetic. It is not unusual to see a handsome prince, dressed in pristine white, clean and sweet smelling, with a body wasted by muscle atrophy.

An order for DNR does not exist, except on paper. There are upwards of 6,000 members of the Saudi Royal Family. Each one is eligible to receive a share of the Family fortune, as it is doled out. Therefore, the aged and/or infirm are kept alive by all means possible. This hospital houses an entire wing of patients who are in persistent vegetative states or are on vents or other means of artificial life support. As long as they live, their family members have a closer link to the crown and they are eligible for stipends that will be managed by their guardians.

Advantages of working as a nurse in this outpost are notable.

American nurses command the highest rate of pay. Transportation, to and from Saudi for each assignment, is paid. A one year contract can include a 2 week paid vacation. A Re-up bonus for a second year is often offered. There is no Saudi tax to pay and very few living expenses since housing is provided. There may be favorable tax treatment by the IRS as well. Uniforms are provided and will be worn, without covering, only while on duty. At all other times, when in public, a nurse must be covered head to toe with the burka. Segregated swimming pools, tennis courts, and fitness centers, etc. are provided and offer diversion. Taxis or buses are available to provide transportation to leave the complex to go shopping or site-seeing. Everything in the shopping center seems to be made in China. But, the Super Markets are great. There, you will find food from all over the world. You can spend hours just tasting special imports of the best honey, or 28 different kinds of olives on the olive counters. Hint: You might find the sweet olives are horrible. However, you may never have seen such dates. They are to die for.

Disadvantages of going to this outpost need to be pointed out. American nurses are sometimes vulnerable because they can be naive. They have enjoyed the Constitutional protection of a democratic government. They do not always carefully consider that they do not have that same protection when they leave the borders of their homeland. A study of the customs and culture of the country to which they are going is a must. Most important is an understanding of the system of government and laws.

According to the U.S. Department Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2000-2001, this Islamic country is ruled by Sharia Law, and Women's Rights are virtually non-existent. Although a state of world-wide unrest exists with the Radical Islamic countries, because of oil reserves, a policy of appeasement has been adopted by the United States. Americans in Saudi Arabia must depend on this fragile relationship to continue in order to have a semblance of safety while they are in that country. It is important to know the facts and not live in the romantic fantasy of The Arabian Nights.

In Saudi Arabia, the government seems to be made up of a system of checks and balances. The Royal Family controls the money. Money is "Power". The Islamic Radicals are the Rulers because they interpret the Law of Sharia; a system of national laws derived from the Koran and the traditions of Mohammed. The Mutawwa'in are the religious police who are the enforcers of the Law. Religious Law is Civil Law in this country. Because it is interpreted literally, it is enforced without mercy. Sharia Law identifies anyone who is not a Muslim as an Infidel and an enemy. Muslims are specifically ordered to not befriend unbelievers. Mateen Elass explains the implications of this in her book, Understanding the Koran. According to standard Islamic jurisprudence, Sharia Law today interprets the Koran as obligating Muslims to be under the rule of expansionist jihad (holy war). This is understood as an armed struggle against unbelievers, whether or not the Muslim community had been attacked. This is a country that has a history of 1,600 years of revolutions, political assassinations, and massacres, and has ruled it's populace by subjection or death. Today, Arab media often incite Arabs to street rage and violence by feeding misinformation. You will remember that the world witnessed Muslims dancing in the streets, celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center 9/11.

There is a difference, between being a judgmental person and being a person of rational judgment, that is worth remembering. If you choose to go, Saudi Arabia, be careful about how you conduct yourself. Right now, the long arm of the U.S. Embassy gives a sense of safety. However, there are things that you must do to protect yourself from embarrassment, from derision, from humiliation, from attack, and from arrest. Be prepared for unwelcome gazes and advances from the Saudi men while you are working in your uniform. They have been brought up to believe that a woman who does not cover herself is available for sex or is a prostitute. Never accept an invitation to accompany a Saudi man anywhere for the same reason. He has an expectation that you can be bought and because of his wealth may offer very expensive jewels and gifts. Outside of your unit, you will always be covered with a Burka. You will ride in the back of a bus, by Law. You will not get into a Taxi unaccompanied because you cannot be alone with a man. Men and women are separated even in the Marketplace. If you want to buy a cup of coffee in Starbucks, you will go to a segregated area for women. Is Saudi Arabia a good idea for you? Only you can decide.

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Specializes in Home Care, Primary care NP, QI, Nsg Adm.

Saudi has its nuances like any other place. And, there are many goods and its share of bad things in this country as in any place as well. Then there are issues that are more specific in behavior, attitudes, etc.

I have been working in Saudi since 1995 and my children have grown up here. For them, this is home. I was a DON until a few months ago then moved into Quality Management. There are good opportunities here and a decent way of life. For me as a revert to Islam, it suits my and my families lifestyle very well and is the main reason for coming here.

If a person is open to a new way of life and open to Islam and Muslims, it is an easy place to be. If things like not being able to drive, covering the body in a modest way, no dating, no drinking, no churches, etc., are to difficult to deal with, don't come.

Professionally, if you are a bit on the perfectionist side in your work and demand things be done a certain way, be sure you get information about the place you are offered work. There is a big mix of expats from many countries and with different ideas of standards, quality, etc.

Last, be very careful about working in the private sector.

Specializes in Management, Emergency, Psych, Med Surg.

This was a great post and I really learned a lot from reading it. I had thought in the past of going there to work but I finally decided against it due to having a sick mom here at home and just having a general lack of information of what I would be getting myself into.

Specializes in med/surg/tele/neuro/rehab/corrections.

I've often considered working in Saudi Arabia. Just wanted to be a part of this thread to hear more about it. For travel nursing, I went to my local library and picked up a book on it. In the back it listed agency's and one was specifically for Saudi Arabia King Faisel Hospital. I would get more info from an agency before I made my decision.

Specializes in Maternity, med & Surg Onc, Hospice, Med.

I'm not sure what your objection is. She is telling it the way it is.

Specializes in Critical Care.

If you could grit your teeth and tolerate being treated as a second class citizen, might be quite and adventure! At least you might get to know women and how they tolerate their centuries old roles, see some of the world, learn a littlle bit of Arabic...that being said I would prolly last a week...too mouthy! But I admire those who can do this!

Specializes in ED.

Hi,

I worked in Saudi just before the Iraq war broke out and was well liked as an Aussie (they did not care for Americans that much), but they probably don't like Aussies much now either.

Either way, I went for the cultural experience- and it was well worth it. I came back a different person. However, I didn't last the year. The place was run by phillipinos nurses (most of them nice!- however clicky), and the nursing was American style, which was difficult for me, but I got used to it.

The patients were LOVELY! Really, true muslims are lovely (Im not muslim), and the women are quick to point out that Islam in Saudi is extreme and not to judge in on your experience in Saudi. I met some wonderful locals, I went to a patients house for dinner, dated a local boy (not recommended- I could have been in serious trouble if caught), travelled to both sides of the country, went to the gold markets and markets, diving etc

Some words of warning....

Ask about accomadation. I worked for King Failsal and it had seperate male/female compounds, BORING!!!!

Don't expect to build your wealth. I spent it on getting out of the country for decent freedom type holidays.

The abaya is awesome, annonymity and poor fashion sense underneath is ok

Riyad is dry heat- strict, Jeddah is humid- not as strict

They do not try and shove their religion down your throat, so be respectful- they deserve it

We brewed our own wine...very illegial, but everyone does it- just don't ever be drunk in public. Alcholism is actually a problm in Saudi- they just don't acknowlede it

Be safe- never leave the compound as a woman alone

Be prepared to be stared at...alot. Very annoying, there are so many expat Indian/Sri Lankans that hardley ever see westerners.

The local religious police- mettawa- even the locals hate them, just COVER YOUR HEAD when they are around...no big deal.

Finally, have fun, its not as bad as people make it out to be. It can be lonely, but put yourself out there and try and make friends, and it comes.

I worked on Cruise Ships as a nurse afterwoods, and enjoyed it much better.

Hope this helps!

Specializes in Home Care, Primary care NP, QI, Nsg Adm.

Interesting post. I'm American, revert to Islam. Was Jewish and became Muslim 27 years ago. I've been in Saudi 15 years and after 14 years as a DON in one of three addiction hospitals I have transferred to a Military Hospital as Director of Quality. This is a great career move. Working in addiction for 14 years I know about the home brew but as a Muslim I know both the reasons why it is forbidden Islamically and from the social and health points of view, the devastation of alcohol is well known. I had a patient who partied several years ago on 'home-brew' and destroyed his optic nerve and is now blind. Islam in saudi is not extreme, some Muslims may be on both sides, in their quest to "modernize" Islam and on the other side, the radically try to establish it, but Islam is pristine. The Muslim you dated certaintly is not following Islam, in fact he is disobedient to Allah and His Messenger Muhammad and sinning. A Muslim adhering to Islam correctly will be a person whom you will be secure with, safe from, helped when needed, cared for if necessary and he/she will be exceedingly concerned for your welfare, particularly in the Hereafter, henceforth, the reason for giving the message of Islam. Judge Islam from its sources, the final revelation , the Quran and from the teachings (sunnah) of God's Final Messenger Muhammad and not necessarily from Muslims unless you see they are examples from these 2 sources.

Specializes in OB, ER, M/S, Supervision - Acute care.

of special interest to me is the remark about "american style nursing". since i know of no other, maybe you could id some of the differences between australian vs american nursing. i wonder if both styles undergo a significant change as nurses try to minister to the saudi population with all of its wondrous differences.

Specializes in ED.

I think that Im not the right person to compare Australian and American nursing, BUT from my personal experience, I had only been a nurse for a few years when I went there, and found doing a full secondary assessment on someone with a sore thumb tedious especially when I could not speak Arabic. In saying that, I got in trouble a lot- borderline bullied! BUT, I did come back a better nurse. I think mentoring and supporting nurses work out alot better than saying please explain why you did not do this last week etc.

One of my friends is in Saudi at the moment- Ill ask her to post a comment.

As to the person who made the comment about the muslim boyfriend, bad idea which is why it didn't last long! BUT you learn by your mistakes don't you. Not so much because I was not Muslim, but because it is illegial to be in the company of a man who is not your husband or brother in Saudi. Also, if something bad happens to you in their company, it will be your fault no matter what you did. Remember the girl who was charged for being gang raped in Jeddah was it?

I have read some amazing books for those who are looking at going to Saudi-

In The land of Invisable Women by Qanta Ahmed- a biography about a American muslim female doctor in Saudi, and The Bin Ladens by Steve Coll- which gives insight into the history of Saudi- excellent reads both!

As stated before, Saudi is a great cultural experience, you just have to be aware and safe!

Specializes in OB, ER, M/S, Supervision - Acute care.

now i see what you mean about your experience with american nursing. doing a full head to toe assessment on a person with a sore finger does seem greatly excessive. in the u.s. each state has its own nurse practice acts, but they are all quite similar. all american nurses are expected to use a carefully spelled out nursing process & are required to show competency by delivering the same quality nursing care as any other nurse would usually & ordinarily provide in similar settings. failer to do so, can result in a nurse becoming unemployable, losing her license, & even being sued for negligence or malpractice. there is an underlying current of stress that may make some nurses overzealous, but hopefully, that is not all bad.

your suggested reading materials are excellent. i agree that anyone leaving the safety of their own homeland, needs to make a study of the area & the people where they intent to go. the u.s. government issues travel advisories intended to keep its citizens as safe as possible when they travel abroad.

thats why sociology says that whats "norm" in one culture, is not a norm in the other. So if we hear, see or learn about a new culture, we should have a open mind.

Specializes in OB, ER, M/S, Supervision - Acute care.

just the reading of all of the comments that have been posted is an education in itself. glad to hear from you!