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Hi out there my name is Sharon ,very new to internet and all of that.This is the story in a nutshell.I am interested in working in France possibly next year 2005.I AM IRISH but currently ... Read More


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    Just returned from France. Decision made, we're moving out permanently end of August so kids can start school. Have you heard of such a thing as a term-time only contract. In UK, due to the staffing crisis, there are many of these on offer. Obviously great for working mothers. Childcare doesn't seem to be so abundant in France as it is in UK. Am going to send my CV to local hospitals - which department do I address it to? Thanks again for all your help.
    Quote from DavidFR
    Salut!

    Most major hospitals have their 'Ecole d'Infirmiers' attached to it just like in the good old days in the UK. So if you're planning to go to any relatively large-ish town the hospital will probably be a training centre. Here in Paris one of the biggest is the Pitié Salpretrière (famous as the place Diana died!!!) 41 - 83 boulevard de l'Hôpital, 75013 Paris; one with a very good reputation is the Hôpital Cochin, 27 boulevard St. Jacques, 75014 Paris. Frankly though, I doubt this will be necessary. the French have a very 'learn on the job' approach rather like we did in the UK 20 years ago - they don't have the British obsession for getting bits of paper signed (in this one instance!!) or proving that you've been observed 20 times performing a task. You as the professional have to say if you feel competent or not. For example, I had never canulated before I came to France. While working as an agency nurse the need to cannulate arose - another agency nurse showed me how. The need arose again that shift and that same nurse observed me do one. If you say you ' I never did this in England, please show me' the French are very willing. part of this is that they love to think their training is superior and that their nursing is the best, hence they're only too happy to show off their skills and show you 'their' way! I've come across a French trained nurse who'd never done an ECG, so I wouldn't come over here thinking they'll all be super technically skilled and you'll be able to do nothing - I'm sure it won't be like that.

    I currently work in occ. health where all the ergonomics is new to me, but people are very happy to train me up. When I was doing agency I was constantly offered shifts on psychiatry - I just used to explain that in Britiain it's a separate training and I'd rather take medical/surgical shifts instead - no problem. I can honestly say I've very rarely (in fact only once) come up against this attitude of 'Oh God he couldn't do this and he didn't know that' that British nurses are so good at dishing out!

    It sounds like (like me ) it's only the cannulation you're lacking? Somebody will be willing to show you. If you're OK with drugs, IV's, central lines, observations, dressings, blood taking; that's most of it covered.
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    Quote from johnathan crisp
    Just returned from France. Decision made, we're moving out permanently end of August so kids can start school. Have you heard of such a thing as a term-time only contract. In UK, due to the staffing crisis, there are many of these on offer. Obviously great for working mothers. Childcare doesn't seem to be so abundant in France as it is in UK. Am going to send my CV to local hospitals - which department do I address it to? Thanks again for all your help.

    And I wish you the best of luck!
    I would address the letter either to "Ressources Humains - Infirmiers" or to the Cardre Infirmier(e) Supérieur.
    Don't know about term-time contracts. I suppose each hospital has it's own arrangements, but if you want flexible hours most hospitals have a system of pool nurses, usually called 'vacataires'
    Bonne chance!
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    hello,
    my name is michelle. i am an american with duel nationality french also. i hold both passports french and american. i lived most of my life in the usa; i moved to the south of france near toulouse in December with my husband and newborn son. In the usa i worked five years as a nurse aide and then after college three years as a registered nurse. i am just beginning to understand and speak french slowly. my husband is french. i speak english with him and my son and with everyone else french. i do not write any french and reading is very basic. i know my american diploma is not the same as the french i have checked into it and i would have to take an exam then go to school for a minimum of one year maximum of three years depending on how you score on the exam. PLUS YOU MUST BE FLUENT IN THE LANGUAGE!!! i am not. i am considering going to england to work first while i learn my french; because i have been told that if i work in Engand the diploma is the same as the french and after i can work immediately in France if i know the language by then. I have another question i was wondering with my experience and diploma if i could work as a nurse aide for the moment to just get some extra cash? can anyone tell me anything about the nursing in england shift hours pay good areas to work and live and also about working in france too any good information you can give me. feel free to use my personal email because i do to visit this site often. cedriclagaillarde@hotmail.com also for learning the french language reading writing speaking sometimes i am very frustrated i feel i will never be fluent.
    any advice you can give will be of great HELP!!!!!
    thank you and have enjoyed reading everyones comments
    michelle
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    "any advice you can give will be of great HELP!!!!!
    thank you and have enjoyed reading everyones comments"

    Honey, you'll have no problem learning. Don't stress out about it because the more you stress, the harder it is to learn: I think part of the reason why children learn languages so much easily and quicker than adults is because they are allowed more social uninhibition and thus can use their intuition more and are not afraid of sounding like "they can't speak well" like adults are.

    You've got your associate degree so you can probably go ahead and enroll in the nearest university majoring in French if you think you can do it: it is fun and interesting, you get to meet pther french persons, and hey, you'd get a degree.

    If you want to learn french with other people who are learning french as a foreign language too, PRONTO, NOW, and fast, DON'T spend a whole lot of money with a private program that teaches french (or at least I wouldn't because I know there are other much cheaper options but since I've never been to one, I can't really bash their quality). I'd suggest enrolling in one of the nearest French french language schools, one connected to a university would probably have great resources, I beleive the name of a good one is CUEFE. I know that they are cheap and good. You learn phonetics(how to pronounce), grammer, culture, lit, politics, writing, and how french people tend to view things, they teach just about everything for you to acculturate and learn the language at the same time I think.

    Courage!
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    can anyone tell me how long i would need to work in england before to work in france? i hold an american diploma which is not the same as french; but the english is.
    thanks
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    Hi psycho,what can you tell me about Belgium with regards to nursing or anthing for that matter.I AM currently working in New ZEALAND ,I am Irish ,also spent several years nursing in South Africa.Have EEC passport ,french language very limited ,interested in what you have to say.Voyage. not very good on using internet.
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    can anyone tell me how long i would need to work in england before to work in france? i hold an american diploma which is not the same as french; but the english is.
    thanks
    Bonjour,


    I really enjoyed readind this thread!I'm joun and I am French.I am actually taking my English exams and passed the american RN license.I'm living in Cleveland(Ohio)!I think that you can find an agency which will hire you as a nurse assistant(aide soignant).I don't have the address of this agency but it was in Paris.The name of this agency was "Bastille".I remmember that because I was visiting nurse(when you give nursing care in patient's home) and I used to work with different kind of people from different agencies.So,try to find something to give care at home.Also,you can find a little job as a nursing assistant to take care of old persons it's a good way to improve your French and have money!Feel free to e-mail me if you need help!Good luck!


    Joun.
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    Hello everyone,
    I have wanted to move to France since my first visit in 1987. The language barrier intimidated me, life happened and I never moved or learned French.
    I understand that the nursing boards need to taken in French. Is there a guide for studying? Thirty three years have passed since my last nursing course. At present, I am working in dialysis with a background in Critical Care. Perhaps it is possible to contact a hospital recruiter, express interest in a job and, as Carcha and Joun have mentioned, work as an aide until I take the boards?
    Any ideas?
    Many thanks to all who have contributed to this timely thread.
    Regina
    Last edit by Regina H. on Aug 29, '04
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    Quote from VOYAGE
    Hi out there my name is Sharon ,very new to internet and all of that.This is the story in a nutshell.I am interested in working in France possibly next year 2005.I AM IRISH but currently working in New Zealand as RN in A+E for just over year.Did all my 4 years study in South Africa and I am 10 years post grad.I have an EEC passport so basically I will be asking 2 questions.First of all can anyone give me postal address of nursing council in France and what is best way of learning French,did study it many years ago but have forgotten most of it.I am currentlt registered with New Zealand nursing council and South African council have worked in practically every aspect of nursing profession but preferr TRAUMA.IT would be greatly appreciated if someone could assist in this area as I would like to prepare myself prior to going .Thanking you Sharon Mac Donald.
    hello sharon,
    I am a registered nurse from america who came to france to try to work here.
    i hold duel citezenship both french and american. It is very difficult here to get permission to work as a nurse. you must contact an agency in the town you wish to work at here called the DDASS there is an office in the major city for all of the department. you can look up the address and phone number on the internet just look up the DDASS there is one in Paris and one in Toulouse i have talked with them both.
    If you did not go to school in one of the european countries then you must pass an exam and go to nursing school for a minimum of one year maximum of three years. if you went to school or hold a license in a european country your only obligation is to understand french. you will be given an interview at the DDASS by another nurse who will decide if your french is good enough for you to work here if it is she will give you the authorization to work here if it is not then you CAN NOT WORK HERE. I am going to england at the beginning of the year to work for a little while so i will have a nursing license from a european country and will not have to take the nursing exam or go back to school in france my only obligation is to learn the language before i come back here. i have been living here for about one year now i did not know that i was going to have trouble with my diploma when i came"
    if you would like to talk more email me at cedriclagaillarde@hotmail.com.
    unfortunately you must learn your french well before you can work here but call the DDASS they can send you documents in english to explain all to you they did for me. best of luck michelle lagaillarde
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    hello,
    thank you for your reply and best of luck to you in the states you will love nursing there i did. can you tell me about nursing in france what it is like?
    i checked into a private nursing home here and they are going to hire me as an aide soignent until i can do something about my diploma take the nursing exam or go to england to validate my diploma. the french language is what scares me it seems so difficult at this point i understand most but i do not write or read french. i start work as an aid in about two weeks so i will see how it goes thanks again
    best of luck
    michelle
    Quote from joun
    Bonjour,


    I really enjoyed readind this thread!I'm joun and I am French.I am actually taking my English exams and passed the american RN license.I'm living in Cleveland(Ohio)!I think that you can find an agency which will hire you as a nurse assistant(aide soignant).I don't have the address of this agency but it was in Paris.The name of this agency was "Bastille".I remmember that because I was visiting nurse(when you give nursing care in patient's home) and I used to work with different kind of people from different agencies.So,try to find something to give care at home.Also,you can find a little job as a nursing assistant to take care of old persons it's a good way to improve your French and have money!Feel free to e-mail me if you need help!Good luck!


    Joun.


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