El Centro students Spring '06 - page 55

i know some of us have received our letters so i was wondering who else i will be making this journey with for the next 2 years. :wavey: my name is allison shaffer and it's nice to meet... Read More

  1. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    if it were for fall '06 entries for rn, then you'd think they would let us know. we could take it during the summer. i'd take one of those & not stats if i knew it i'd have to take it during the program.

    it may be for those wanting to start in fall '07. it does say as a pre-req. (they would have to give a year's notice to allow those students to take the additional classes.)


    there's been rumors that the application was going to change. so, i'm sure this is it. something has to be done about the way the application process is. 1 b in 13 credits shouldn't beat out 1 b in 30 credits. imho
    Last edit by Fun2, RN, BSN on May 12, '06
  2. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from Fun2Care
    If it were for Fall '06 entries for RN, then you'd think they would let us know. We could take it during the summer.

    It may be for those turning in their applications now to start Spring '07.

    I'd take one of those & not STATS if I knew it.

    There's been rumors that the application was going to change.
    Yeah I'd heard that to. I guess they really are worried about the high number of applicants. And think about it, what would happen if they got more 4.0's one semester than they had spaces? I am sure they have a plan, but it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.


    Pharm and Path used to be offered online and in the minimesters. As long as they continue that trend this might not be TOO much of a delay for FUTURE applicant. It would be rather unfair for this Fall's incoming class though.
  3. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    I wouldn't have a problem with taking them.....next summer! I chose to have all of my classes completed before I started in order deal with only nursing classes & clinicals.


    As for too many 4.0's than seats...THAT HAPPENED! For Spring '06, there were 15 students that had 4.0's that didn't get accepted!

    Beyond that, there were 15 students with 3.77 and all support classes completed, that obviously didn't get in either..... Again, 13 credits beat out 30.

    Shameful....




    Quote from sunnyjohn
    Yeah I'd heard that to. I guess they really are worried about the high number of applicants. And think about it, what would happen if they got more 4.0's one semester than they had spaces? I am sure they have a plan, but it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.


    Pharm and Path used to be offered online and in the minimesters. As long as they continue that trend this might not be TOO much of a delay for FUTURE applicant. It would be rather unfair for this Fall's incoming class though.
  4. by   LKG6
    That paper wasn't specific for nursing students. I think they will let us know if we need to take those two courses for a degree. The paper said to take those courses as a prereq.
    Katie
  5. by   JaxiaKiley
    Yeah, if they are pre-reqs starting in fall 06, then I need to get busy for Spring 07. Does anyone know how we can find out for sure if this applies to nursing students, and if so, when does it go into effect?

    As for the application process, personally, I like it. It is the reason I picked this program over another. Luckily, I asked what GPA it took to get in, and learned that I needed the 4.0 to be competitive and made sure to study hard. If I had to have all pre-reqs and support classes done, it would take me longer to get in (earliest would be Spring 08). In Tarrant County they use a different process where all classes are taken into account and people with 4.0s but missing one support class cannot get in compared to someone who barely passed all the classes (so I've been told). It is a major bummer than the one B kept you out for a semester so I can see why it would frustrate you.

    I guess every method has its problems. We could have waiting lists like some states, where it takes years to get into a program.
  6. by   lalajenn
    First semester teacher said they were planning on changing the application process because there were a lot of people coming in to the program who did not know A&P. Not sure exactly what they will be doing but she did say they were changing some things.
  7. by   JaxiaKiley
    But how much notice do they have to give us of changes to the requirements?
  8. by   sunnyjohn
    I to prefer a GPA only admissions criteria to a Points criteria. I've seen some wacko points-systems that would make you cringe.

    If they have a problem with folks not knowing A&P maybe they should develop and advanced A&P for nursing students. A good idea would be to make the pre-reqs similar to the classes needed for the BSN completion at UTA or other schools in the Metroplex.

    If stops qualified students from getting knocked out of the running, I'm all for it. There is NO reason for 15 4.0 studnets being left out. Even the 3.77 (one B) is sad.

    I sure hope they can squeze extra money out of the education budget to expand the program.
  9. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    I'm not sure a points system is the correct either, so don't get me wrong there.

    I'm just looking at the whole picture. If someone had a 4.0 on their pre-reqs & a 2.0 GPA on all 17 credits of the support courses, that person really shouldn't beat out somoene with a 3.77 on their pre-reqs & a 4.0 GPA on all 17 credits of the support courses.

    This is just a 'for instance', it didn't happen (to my knowledge.) However, looking at it this way, someone with 4 A's and 5 C's could easily beat out someone with 8 A's and one B.



    Anyway, I am a strong believer that for whatever reason, I was not suppose to get in for Spring. So, I'm right where I belong, when I belong.





    But.....If you extend the number of pre-reqs, and keep the GPA application process, it tightens the contest. This is actually a good thing. Soon there will be so many 4.0 students getting turned away that students will be turned off by this program & not even try to get in.
  10. by   AllyRN82
    The other day in class a girl asked me what renal meant! I know for sure some of these people don't know their A&P!!! How do you almost complete first semester and NOT know what renal means????????????? Isn't it good to know some really good candidates were turned away for someone who obviously cheated their way through A&P......it's disgusting.
  11. by   JaxiaKiley
    I guess they could require more of the support classes as pre-reqs after Spring 07

    I'm not sure people will be turned away because it didn't take a 4.0 this time. Who can tell...
  12. by   JaxiaKiley
    Oh, but about A&P - I wish there was standardized test to make sure we all knew the same stuff coming out. After talking to people who took classes at different places or even through different teachers, it sounds like it can take very little effort to get an A sometimes. That frustrates me because I worked HARD for my A, and there were very few As in my class.
  13. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    There's no way I cheated through A&P, and I finished A&P 1 with over a 100! I can say, in this past year, I have forgotten so much. I will also have to spend my summer using my Powerpoint quizzes to review.

    (Yes, I know what renal means.) :chuckle

    That's another problem, having to wait a year (or more) after A&P, how could you not forget a bunch of it?




    Quote from faceinbooks82
    The other day in class a girl asked me what renal meant! I know for sure some of these people don't know their A&P!!! How do you almost complete first semester and NOT know what renal means????????????? Isn't it good to know some really good candidates were turned away for someone who obviously cheated their way through A&P......it's disgusting.

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