Minority SRNA/CRNA's - page 8

:) Hello I have been a lurker here for quite some time and finally decided to post. I have learned soo much from reading these threads. Allnurses is a great resource! I have been an RN for three... Read More

  1. by   realist
    It is appalling and shameful to be in a profession or want to be considered a profession that find it ok for others to cheat their way through their education. People are half stepping in obtaining the necessary skills and education required because they are priviledged to do so (or so they think). The previous poster stated that he/she was dropping out of the Nurse Anesthetist program because of his concerns with others obtaining old test etc and using these to their advantage thus getting A's while his/her grades are not reflective of cheating or favoritism shown to him. Just because he/she is getting out of the program does not mean that he/she is giving up on a career (If he/she is smart they would pursue another /different profession). Just remember there is a reason there is a nursing shortage. Do you honestly believe that others have to settle for the garbage that goes on in nursing (I can't even refer to it as a profession!). Instead of finding fault with the reality that RACISM DOES EXIST, why don't you try to improve the care that is given to patients by substandard individuals who graduate from these programs after cheating their way though them. I definitely would not want these individuals providing anesthesia to a family member or myself. It is scary how others can't accept that the nursing profession is full of unacceptable garbage!!!! I can just imagine how you must treat others that are different then yourself just by your responses on this post. Oh and by the way some of us could care less about handouts from the priviledged because we have worked hard and have accomplished goals in our life, We JUST KNOW GARBAGE WHEN WE SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  2. by   traumaRUs
    Okay everyone! There is no reason for PROFESSIONALS to act in this manner. Please debate the topic, not the poster. We want to be a board that everyone can enjoy. When we are putting each other down and calling each other names, we come off sounding far less than professional.
  3. by   INFIDEL
    Quote from rn91
    I know of a couple of minority CRNA and they have told me it was not easy from them to ge into school and over the last two years I realize what they were talking about. I am in my 30's and I have spent all my adult life as a RN (graduated at 19). As a minority applicant I could tell you that it is hard to get into school. I have the experience (10 years CTICU and 3 years Trauma), grades(3.4 overall and 4.0 science) and I interview well. I have had two alternate spots and turned down on two interviews. When I called the Program Directors and I asked how can I improve my application for future interview and never get a real answer. When I speak with other applicant of non miniority status and find out that they get into the same school that I applied to and have less experience and worst grades then I do it get me real angry. I am not taking anything away from other student that are qualify and get these spot. This is an issue that I will write the AANA on. I will continue to try, I refuse to give up and I would tell everyone the same. Not only the minority student, but the obese student and the "aged" RN. DO NO GIVE UP IF THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT!

    I would bet there is something you are leaving out... on paper you should be admitted....you must interview poorly. I doubt it has anything to do with skin color... trust me on this one,, I used to do the interviews.
  4. by   FAMU_RN
    I was delighted to recently find out the CRNA program director of Michgan State University is an African American Male.
  5. by   deepz
    Quote from FAMU_RN
    I was delighted to recently find out the CRNA program director of Michgan State University is an African American Male.
    And Wayne State has Dr Prudentia Worth.

    http://www.aana.com/resources.aspx?u...nuID=6&id=1765


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  6. by   RN1980
    so if the director was european american, spanish american or someother ethnic/racial make-up you would have been equally disapointed,right?
  7. by   CI-PLANTOGAS
    Quote from INFIDEL
    I would bet there is something you are leaving out... on paper you should be admitted....you must interview poorly. I doubt it has anything to do with skin color... trust me on this one,, I used to do the interviews.
    So what did you look for in prospective students during interviews?
  8. by   INFIDEL
    Quote from CI-PLANTOGAS
    So what did you look for in prospective students during interviews?
    Hard science grades, communication skills, language skills, work ethic, ability to think under pressure, knowledge of the profession, some humility.. ( It's OK you can lose this when you graduate.)

    My PERSONAL favorite is WORK ETHIC...
  9. by   9janurse
    okay my fellow aa's please we need to desist from all this rubbish. you are own your own in crna school or nursing school , you choose to hang out with our kind, how would you get the notes or be friends with "whites", please we need to stop this , we can't keep on being spoon fed, take action, study your ass off, make friends with everybody, study together, STOP SEEING COLOR, be different.....i laugh at the poster that said shes dropping out because she didnt get notes and such, ohhh how disgusting, if you read your books you would have passed simple...if grades were based on a bell curve then you prolly would have a lil something to say but its not. you should blame you and yourself only. hopefully you would learn from this.


    its funny cause i tell people i want to apply to CRNA school and my fellow BLACKS say "oh that would be almost impossible , they dont accept blacks"...CAN YOU IMAGINE.....YES I AM BLACK BUT THAT DOESNT DEFINE ME AND MY DESIRE TO BECOME A CRNA.


    WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME GETTING ALONG AND GETTING GOOD GRADES AND NOT ......DROP OUT !!!!!!!!

    AND YES I AM BLACK AND PROUD BUT I NEVER BLAME ANYONE FOR MY MISTAKES OR BAD GRADES
  10. by   FAMU_RN
    Quote from 9janurse


    its funny cause i tell people i want to apply to CRNA school and my fellow BLACKS say "oh that would be almost impossible , they dont accept blacks"...CAN YOU IMAGINE.....YES I AM BLACK BUT THAT DOESNT DEFINE ME AND MY DESIRE TO BECOME A CRNA.

    And here is a wonderful webpage for the misinformed. Also, the creator of this webpage is African American. And this person is also a Chief Nurse Anesthetist!!!! www.diversitycrna.com
  11. by   FAMU_RN
    Quote from FAMU_RN
    And here is a wonderful webpage for the misinformed. Also, the creator of this webpage is African American. And this person is also a Chief Nurse Anesthetist!!!! www.diversitycrna.com
    Sorry I posted the incorrect webpage.. it is www.diversitycrna.org
  12. by   armynse
    Quote from 9janurse
    okay my fellow aa's please we need to desist from all this rubbish. you are own your own in crna school or nursing school , you choose to hang out with our kind, how would you get the notes or be friends with "whites", please we need to stop this , we can't keep on being spoon fed, take action, study your ass off, make friends with everybody, study together, STOP SEEING COLOR, be different.....i laugh at the poster that said shes dropping out because she didnt get notes and such, ohhh how disgusting, if you read your books you would have passed simple...if grades were based on a bell curve then you prolly would have a lil something to say but its not. you should blame you and yourself only. hopefully you would learn from this.
    I feel that I must weigh-in on this topic because I find Butterfly SRNA's comments disheartening and misleading. I think that he/she may be looking for excuses to justify the fact that he/she has failed to meet the objectives of his/her anesthesia program.

    I am an African American female and I will matriculate in the Army's anesthesia program in a few short weeks. I gained acceptance into anesthesia school on my first attempt...I gained acceptance because I'm more than minimally qualified. My acceptance was not a handout.

    I find it hard to believe that Butterfly sat in class and was mostly invisible to everyone else. Being from the dirty south, I will acknowledge that it is possible that he/she may have been invisible to large numbers of his/her classmates, but not invisible to everyone.

    I earned my BSN from Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center where I was one of 7 African Americans who graduated that year. I was one of two African Americans to graduate in the top 15% of my class. Needless to say, I was very close to the classmate that was an academic overachiever...we had alot in common. :wink2:

    Getting to the point, the remaining African American students were standoffish. They were separatists...they didn't get along well with my friend or me, nor did they get along well with the white students. In fact, the small group of African American students that I am referring to found themselves "on the bubble" at the end of every semester...the fear of failure was ever present when we were taking finals.

    The point that I'm making is that I was anything but invisible when I was in nursing school. In fact, I was the go-to person because I had all the answers during lecture. It felt as though the instructors were lecturing to me because I was always engaged no matter the content of the lecture. And, that's saying alot because I hate/hated psych nursing!!!

    My message to all people of color, your ability to gain acceptance to CRNA school and subsequently graduate is solely up to you. You must work hard and strive for scores that are far greater than the minimums. Although you may not realize it, white students are rejected in large numbers as well. The application process is extremely competitive and those applicants that present with minimal scores will experience rejection time and time again.

    I do not agree with any statements that suggest minority students are rejected more often than white students. If you subscribe to that theory, you are approaching the whole process with a negative attitude...in the end, the only one who'll be hurt by such faulty thinking is YOU!

    Army
  13. by   FAMU_RN
    Quote from armynse
    I do not agree with any statements that suggest minority students are rejected more often than white students. If you subscribe to that theory, you are approaching the whole process with a negative attitude...in the end, the only one who'll be hurt by such faulty thinking is YOU!

    Army
    First and formost let me say being African American and being black more often means we as an entire race have to work 3 times harder than the next race---> That is just Facts no need for me to sugar coat things because I am on an allnurses webpage. I am a realist...a determinated, perserving African American female realist..

    Myself and several other AA have experienced rejection at its highest peak here in the south because of color. Yes, I do feel African Americans are rejected more than whites. I'm sorry that you precieve "more often rejected" as a negative attitude. Encountered Rejection does not define ones determination and ones willingness (Especially mine). Of course other races and whites have experienced rejection... CRNA is a competitive program.. that speaks for itself :stone But how more often are blacks rejected with a resume/and application greater than the next applicant of a different race? The numbers are surplus. I have done extensive research on this.. I know..

    I am not dismissing the fact that all AA are always rejected..It is just much much harder for us being African American.. The majority of things are NOT GIVEN to us because of who we know.. We have to work 3 times harder.. And nothing, nor words, can camouflage that!!!!!!!!!!!!

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