Becoming an NP with little to no nursing experience?? - page 42

Hello to all!!! I have worked as a parmamedic for 20 years, have a B.A. in Economics, and I wanted to advance my career in healthcare. I was originally looking to pursue the PA route, but for... Read More

  1. by   ANPFNPGNP
    I graduated from the Vandy program, however I had several years of nursing experience before I started it. I'll admit, I had never heard of a direct entry NP program until I went there. One of the direct entry students who graduated with me lives in the same city and she is doing extremely well. I would put her up against several experienced RN/NPs ANY DAY! Experience does NOT equal expertise!
  2. by   subee
    Quote from ANPFNPGNP
    I graduated from the Vandy program, however I had several years of nursing experience before I started it. I'll admit, I had never heard of a direct entry NP program until I went there. One of the direct entry students who graduated with me lives in the same city and she is doing extremely well. I would put her up against several experienced RN/NPs ANY DAY! Experience does NOT equal expertise!
    Better to have expertise plus experience in my world.
  3. by   FNPdude74
    How do you expect to get the experience if there isn't much agencies hiring new grads?
  4. by   Cammer
    Quote from NurseW74
    How do you expect to get the experience if there isn't much agencies hiring new grads?
    There will ALWAYS be jobs available. Sometimes more, sometimes less. But one thing that you must never forget is that the people who are at the top of the game will never lack for a job.

    The trick is to present yourself as someone who is classy, hard working, knowledgeable, and easy to get along with. When you figure out how to pull that off then people will come to you looking to hire you.

    The secret is to learn how to network and showcase yourself. Put your name out there. Get to know people. Be friendly and approachable. Be a good friend to everyone and lines will form looking to hire you.
  5. by   ErnestineB2009
    Quote from NurseW74
    Oh my. Thanks a lot, this is pretty reassuring that there are agencies hiring new grad NPs with no previous RN experience. Though I do hear a lot that it WILL be tough in a way without the previous acute care RN experience. If you were in my position of being a new grad since 2009 and going to be a new grad in august 2011, would you after graduating from the FNP program: a) Search and work as a new grad RN position for 2 years then try find work as an NP. b) Search and then work in areas hiring new grad NPs with no previous RN experience?

    Reason why I'm asking you guys is because I've been thinking hard about what choice to make, but it's difficult sometimes because I'm hearing mixed information. I'm thinking that the places that would direct hire brand new NPs with no previous experience would be in many areas where not too many people would like to work at in certain rural areas of the country.
    Are you saying you have been a RN new grad since 2009 and will be a new grad NP in 2011? If so, I guess working as a RN now will not hurt your cause. I am presently in a a similar situation. I became a new nurse last year and went straight to grad school and plan to finish in May 2011. I work part time as a RN and per diem in a SNF. If you have no previous experience now and is a RN, I encourage you to get a part time job depending on the area you plan to work.I know some hospitals where I live do not hire NPs unless they have 3-5 years of experience as a RN, so I am basically disqualified from working there until a year after I graduate. However, the hospital where I work doesn't care apparently. It all depends. I really don't plan to do acute care after I graduate. At least not immediately. I know plenty of people who got jobs quickly even through the same route of part time RN experience. I am not sure with direct entry.Although you should be fine if that is your situation. Programs would not be alive if their graduates aren't able to get jobs.
  6. by   MissBrn
    It seems to me that if you have the education and acheived degree then you are a NP. The pay rate may be less as your experience would be less. But, I can't see why you wouldn't get a job if you have the education/certification.
  7. by   RNTwin
    Becoming an NP with little to no experience:
    i also know a nurse that did it, got her BSN and went straight into FNP... i guess the positive thing about that is that she never learned any "bad habits"
  8. by   subee
    Quote from RNTwin
    Becoming an NP with little to no experience:
    i also know a nurse that did it, got her BSN and went straight into FNP... i guess the positive thing about that is that she never learned any "bad habits"
    Nor did she learn any "good habit."
  9. by   Sugah Britches
    speaking for myself only!

    13 yrs experience in ccu and ed has provided me with a wealth of knowledge and fine tuned my assessment skills... i have obtained an ability to discern the finer subtleties that can accompany diverse populations and presentations. i cannot imagine that i would be nearly as competent when finishing my fnp if i had went straight from bsn to msn without it.
    i am finding that the fnp program i am in builds on the assumption that you have a certain amount of experience... there is a vast difference in studying about the presentation of a dissecting aortic aneurysm and "knowing" one when a patient presents with "feeling kind of weak and a sharp pain between my shoulder blades, but i have been working in the yard and may have a pulled muscle"

    just mho!
  10. by   zenman
    Quote from ANPFNPGNP
    I graduated from the Vandy program, however I had several years of nursing experience before I started it. I'll admit, I had never heard of a direct entry NP program until I went there. One of the direct entry students who graduated with me lives in the same city and she is doing extremely well. I would put her up against several experienced RN/NPs ANY DAY! Experience does NOT equal expertise!
    Like you say here's one (1) example. However, we're talking Bell curve. There are always those brilliant outliers. I know since I'm one.

    Believe me when I say my physician preceptor is glad I have gray hair on my head.
  11. by   MBARN
    Effectively how much nursing experience do you need before you start an NP program? Also, if an RN/BSN had an MBA with one year experience would she be marketable as and NP after her 3 plus years in school part time? Thanks
  12. by   zenman
    Probably depends on the job you're looking for. I want clinical positions only so my MBA probably doesn't impress anyone in that arena. It also depends on how you use your experience. For ex, if you're a nurse on a floor, when you read a physician's notes and he records heart or lung sounds, or describes a mass somewhere, go right behind him/her and listen and feel. Know all your drugs and ask questions why one versus another. Anticipate what you would do if you were seeing the patient as an NP, then compare with what the doc does. You can get valuable experience quickly if you work it right.
  13. by   Sugah Britches
    Quote from zenman
    Probably depends on the job you're looking for. I want clinical positions only so my MBA probably doesn't impress anyone in that arena. It also depends on how you use your experience. For ex, if you're a nurse on a floor, when you read a physician's notes and he records heart or lung sounds, or describes a mass somewhere, go right behind him/her and listen and feel. Know all your drugs and ask questions why one versus another. Anticipate what you would do if you were seeing the patient as an NP, then compare with what the doc does. You can get valuable experience quickly if you work it right.

    Good advice!

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