Getting an associates degree when you already have a Bachelors Degree in another fiel - page 2
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Can someone help me out with this question. I currently have a Bachelors in Business. I am going to go for an Associates for RN Program. The nursing program is exactly the same for a 2yr college that you would find in a 4 yr... Read More
- 0May 17, '11 by chucksterQuote from MoogieI think I'd revise this to say that as a second-degree MSN you MAY not qualify for some jobs that specify "BSN required" - I've been told this is the case for some employers (and it may also be the case for the military) but don't know that for sure.You're right. Many schools have ADN to MSN bridges and many also allow persons with bachelor's degrees in other fields and ADNs to go into the MSN program. I think in either case you have to take a few BSN level courses (i.e., community health) but you should be okay.
Just be prepared for a tough job market. It has been difficult for any new grads to find work but if you're flexible, you might be able to find something. Also, by the time you finish school the job situation might be different and you won't have any trouble at all. But please do remember that while you can get a MSN with an ADN and a non-nursing bachelor's, you still don't qualify for jobs that are BSN only. It's very confusing and seems contradictory but that's how hiring is these days.
Best wishes in whatever you decide!
I'm in a similar category, though with both a BA and MBA. I went the ADN route to get my RN with the thought that I would work as nurse for a while, then return for my MSN. As it turns out, I've found that it's next to impossible for ADN-RNs to get jobs in my part of the world.
Since all the MSN programs require "bridge" courses for non-BSNs - usually 3 or 4 courses that will take a year or so to complete and for which you often pay graduate-level tuition - I decided to find an inexpensive RN-BSN program instead. After completing that, I'll look for a nursing job and start on my MSN, with no real penalty, either in cost or time.
YMMV. but this one option.Last edit by chuckster on May 17, '11
- 1May 17, '11 by mkjhI was in your sitch. I looked into the programs in my area (moving wasn't an option) and there was an ADN and an accelerated BSN. The acc. BSN was 3 semesters long and 16-19 credits/semester. The ADN was 4 semesters with 9-10 credits/semester. The ADN tuituion was almost half the price of the BSN tuition. I talked to nurses that work in my area about the programs and the grads that they have seen, and they all said that the ADN program produced better nurses than the BSN.
I was very interested in the BSN, but weighing all the factors (and the intensity of the programs was a big one, I have two little kids at home) I went with the ADN. After starting the program, I found that a solid 1/3 of our class of 140 students had a previous bachelors degree.
I recently graduated and had no problems getting a job (and in the area I prefered!).
I plan on doing theRN to BSN bridge to get my BSN, and then continue on to a DNP, after working for a few years. I'm very wary of programs that will let you start a MSN/DNP towards an ARNP, I think that level of practice needs more experience than school can provide.
- 0Jul 8, '11 by AmeraeI'm someone looking into those entry level masters in nursing after completing a BA degree in Psychology, and yes every single program that is in California makes you take all of the prerequisite courses in order to even apply, so all of my prerequisites will be done for any ADN OR accelerated BSN once I'm ready to apply to those entry MSN programs. Therefore you can apply to ALL since they are literally all so competitive now! Another thing to point out is that while Mkjh mentioned that they are wary of those programs, it's not as if you get out working in a position as an Masters level nurse would! By no means would anyone hire anyone with an entry level MSN in an MSN position right out of graduate school, you have to work for usually at least 2 years if not 5 before landing one of those jobs...it's not any different than what everyone else has to do to work their way up, in a health care setting it's always experience that decides one person over another (and of course the bias of who knows who...unfortunately) but yeah so just to clear that up, it's not something to be wary about, one would still work as an RN for a while and build some experience under their belt in a specialty area, but since they did both their RN and MSN together, they wouldn't have to worry about going back again to school once it's time to move on up! And THAT's why I would pick it as my number one choice of a program if someone thinks they want that option later on.
- 0Dec 3, '11 by cdrain"I'm in a similar category, though with both a BA and MBA. I went the ADN route to get my RN with the thought that I would work as nurse for a while, then return for my MSN. As it turns out, I've found that it's next to impossible for ADN-RNs to get jobs in my part of the world. "
Where is your "part of the world?"
I also have a BA and an MBA, and am trying to determine if I can get an ADN, or whether I need to get a BSN...
- 0Dec 13, '11 by U2BCoolthis steams me. i had a ba and some graduate work before starting the adn program. i have tried to find a school that would let me finish my graduate degree in nursing. many of the state college rn to msn programs are discontinuing. although, i do see programs for those with ba/bs degrees in other fields. they can complete a few prereqs and 18 months of full-time study for a msn degree.
i had 18 years as an lpn and tons of statistics, public administration and disaster management education in college. i had someone from und nursing department get snippy with me and rudely asked me why i would even think my previous education should apply towards a bsn ( at least some credit could transfer).
i had to pay every cent of my education and a full-time rn program at a state school or private school was out of my reach financially. looking back i should of taken out loans and obtained my bsn first.
- 0Dec 13, '11 by redhead_NURSE98!Wait a minute....they have a bachelor's in an unrelated field and can get an MSN straightaway? I sure hope that program requires a lot of credits. I also hope they award them a BSN before the MSN, because many states' legislation specifies that you need an ADN or BSN to even apply for licensure. For example, my old state's NA's are having the problem that they have an ADN and went to a bridge program into NA, and the legislation states "bachelor's degree," so they cannot get an NA license at this time.
- 0Dec 14, '11 by jdan88I'm in a similar situation. I have a BS in Psychology and Math (double major). After being out of school for a year, I decided to go into nursing. I am currently enrolled in an ADN program that's accelerated (18 months). This school offers an online BSN option after you become a RN that I'm considering. There are a few BSN schools in my area (central Arkansas), but this was SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive (I'm looking at about $11K in tuition versus $20K-30K for BSN). I'm really enjoying the program, and we get a lot of bedside experience. I'm going into my second semester in January. There is a college nearby that offers a bridge program for RN-MSN. I am debating on whether or not to get my BSN or to do the RN-MSN route since my ultimate goal is NP. In my neck of the woods though, ADNs get hired just as readily as BSNs with no pay difference. You may see a problem trying to get into management positions without a BSN, but aside from that no problem getting a job. Can't speak for other areas, but here there still seems to be quite the RN shortage, and new grads here aren't having much difficulty obtaining employment at either education level.