Why Mayo CRNA program is not top rated?

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    Mayo Clinic is ranked 2nd best hospital in U.S. and its medical school is ranked 22nd (top 1/8) among 163 medical schools. Its CRNA program rank is much lower, tied at 30th (top 1/3) out of 92 accredited programs. Most of top medical schools ahead of Mayo have no CRNA program, I just naturally thought that Mayo CRNA should be the top 10% and it is not the case. This is also reflected in the application pools. There is extremely strong interest to Mayo Medical School as it has the lowest acceptance rate --2.7%, even lower than Harvard (4.7%) and John Hopkins(5.6%). But Mayo CRNA program isn't nearly close to that level of interest. It has normally 120 applicants a year and admits 30, so the acceptance rate is about 25%. I feel the 25% rate in CRNA is above the average as a lot of programs accept only 5-10% of applicants. The 2 geographically closest programs, Minnesota VA and Franciscan Skemp, has attracted more interest per position wise as they all have about 10% acceptance rate.

    In my opinion Mayo has the teaching and clinical resources to make it one of the best CRNA programs in U.S. Is there anybody have any explanation for that? Is it because Mayo is not really interested in building a top-rated CRNA program as they are more interested in maintaining a strong MD/residence program?
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    Mayos program probably is a top notch school. It's the ranking system that is seriously flawed. IMHO, when researching CRNA schools, the US News rankings should be the last consideration of an applicant. Upon graduation, you will be a CRNA. No one will care where you went to school as long as you pass the boards.
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    Quote from TraumaNurse
    Mayos program probably is a top notch school. It's the ranking system that is seriously flawed. IMHO, when researching CRNA schools, the US News rankings should be the last consideration of an applicant. Upon graduation, you will be a CRNA. No one will care where you went to school as long as you pass the boards.
    I agree with TraumaNurse. The US News and World Report ratings are nothing to look at when making a decision about schools. Remember, the VA etc in Minnesota are in Minneapolis. Minneapolis/St. Paul has a lot more of a drawing market than Rochester does. Believe it or not, more people want to stay local than move for CRNA school. Most schools pull from the area around them. So, if you get accepted to Mayo, go to Mayo. It's a top notch school...look for the things you are looking for in your school....not what the US News and World Report think is important.
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    I think if you look back you will find other discussions on the board regarding this topic. I can say I researched the US News rankings for a paper and after MUCH MUCH digging, I was able to get the methods used which where nothing more then a questionare sent to the directors of all the programs and how they ranked the schools= popularity contest.

    Brent
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    The school that I am most interested was SECOND TO LAST on that stupid USnews report. Yet, 100% of graduates from that school consistently pass boards on their first try. In my opinion, whichever school accepts you and whichever school has a higher passing rate on boards is the best school in the country.
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    I agree comepletely that US News is nothing more than a glossy, high colored publication for people who want to "research CRNA school" but not spend more than about 20 seconds. But your comments beg another question: is it really beneficial to attent a popular-sounding school? In other words, will I get more and better job offers if I can say I graduated from Mayo or Colombia? Up here in AK, the CRNA job market seems pretty tight, so maybe that would be a nice thing on my CV...or is it really worth the trouble?
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    On another train of thought ... If you just want to think about the general question of why a high-quality med school might not have a nursing school of similar quality ...

    The quality of a particular educational program does not always match the quality of other programs offered by the same school. For example, a university might have a great engineering school but a lousy English department ... etc. Each department is run by the members of that department, and each department is allocated a certain amount of resources, etc. Being strong in one department does not guarantee strength in another department.

    llg
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    i would also add that if the university has a highly rated medical school, and anesthesiology residency program, 1. most resources go to the medical school. 2. you may be in heavy competition with residents for cases. not ideal for learning your trade. i know of some places where the residents do the epidurals for example while the srna's observe.
    research the schools you are interested in, try to get an observational day or 2 there and see how things go for the srna's and crna's. you may decide that you could find a better education elsewhere.
    i cant say this is the way it is at mayo, just look into it.
    d
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    I've heard that Mayo is light on regional and light on lines... but this is definetly third party information. I'm sure someone here can set this straight.
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    With the job market wide open, recruiters and hospitals are looking to fill their positions. If you pick a school that fits your needs, work hard, and pass your boards, then you are going to find work pretty much wherever you want. You will have a license and be certified....thats the bottom line. Eventhough I am in the military, I have more per diem work than I know what to do with and my agencies and the hospitals I directly contract worry about one thing, I do what I say I can do and my license is current.

    Mike


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