The Doctor of Nursing (ND) Degree

LegalBeagle · Aug 9, 2005

Has anyone heard of the ND programme now being offered by Case Western Frances Payne Bolton School of Nursing. What do you think about offering ND degrees as opposed to DNsc or a PhD in nursing? Would you be interested in obtaining this degree? It sounds interesting to me but I'm only a nursing student so I have a few years to see how many other schools start to adopt ND programmes. what do practicing nurses think about this? thanks, candi

FPB has offered the ND degree for many years (at least 25 that I know of). Great school, but you will work hard to earn that degree! VERY hard. Good luck to you.

jamaicanRN · Aug 9, 2005

i did not know that, i am way out of the game the LOL, i'm only 20 and i told my parents no to the MD degree because UWI's programme took forever and cost way to much, and chose nursing b/c of the great nurses that took care of me. thanks for that info

elkpark · Aug 9, 2005

There are a great many schools now offering a clinical doctorate under a slew of different names -- "DNSc" (Doctor of Nursing Science), "ND" (Nursing Doctorate), "DSN" (Doctor of Science in Nursing), "DrNP" (Doctor of Nursing Practice), and probably some others I haven't heard of yet. Although some of them have been around for quite a while (as much as 25 years, as LeagleBeagle notes), lately, they seem to be springing up like mushrooms after a spring rain.

They all differ from the PhD in that they are focused on clinical practice rather than research/scholarship, as the PhD (in any field) is.

All of a sudden, there seems to be a lot of buzz and chatter about the clinical doctorate. Don't ask me why ... There are quite a few recent threads here that discuss members' opinions about these degrees, that you could search and review.

GrnHonu99, RN · Aug 10, 2005

There are a great many schools now offering a clinical doctorate under a slew of different names -- "DNSc" (Doctor of Nursing Science), "ND" (Nursing Doctorate), "DSN" (Doctor of Science in Nursing), "DrNP" (Doctor of Nursing Practice), and probably some others I haven't heard of yet. Although some of them have been around for quite a while (as much as 25 years, as LeagleBeagle notes), lately, they seem to be springing up like mushrooms after a spring rain.
They all differ from the PhD in that they are focused on clinical practice rather than research/scholarship, as the PhD (in any field) is.
All of a sudden, there seems to be a lot of buzz and chatter about the clinical doctorate. Don't ask me why ... There are quite a few recent threads here that discuss members' opinions about these degrees, that you could search and review.

odd i asked that question on these boards the other day and i was told that there was not an adv clinical degree past an MSN. I was told the that doctorate degree in nursing was research/scholarhip based, mostly for those who wish to be in academia. Do you know how this clincal doctorate differs from say an MSN/NP degree in the same field? What responisbilities does a clinical doctorate have that an NP/MSN not have? Thanks!

Oh and I looked into Case western, it is a great program! Case is a very reputable school! I couldn't move to cleveland really but I found a great direct entry program in nursing in Cincinnati. :)

glascow · Aug 10, 2005

We're discussing this topic in the graduate student nurse MSN/FNP/PHD forum

https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114252&page=2

There are some good links posted where you can find descriptions of each of the degrees and requirements.