Paleo/Primal Diet? - page 5

Does anyone have any experience with the Paleo diet? Like what you'd see on Mark's Daily Apple or PaNu - PāNu Blog . Did anyone have a positive (or negative) experience with it? Do you see any major flaws? Is this something you... Read More

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    Yes, there are 2 different camps. One that is of the "Safe starch" variety, and one that is of the low carb variety. Some Paleo folks eat plenty of carbs, but the most popular version of the diet is low-ish carb.

    And I like to tell people that Ancestral eating is not a diet of knowing what to eat. Because yes, we are all aware, and have debated ad nauseam about the logical fallacy of assuming everything pre-neolithic folks ate was automatically healthy.

    I think the general consensus is that it's a philosophy, one that doesn't suppose to know WHAT ancient man ate, (although the archeological record is pretty clear) but rather one that understands what they DIDN'T eat. I know we DIDN'T evolve eating doritos, tofu dogs, and sweet'n low. (PS, sweeteners are still on the ADA heart healthy diet list, hence why it's served on most diabetic diet hospital trays) And as such, if one avoids those processed foods, it's pretty safe to say that you're eating foods we were evolved to eat. That being said, the food, soil, and environment of today is very different, and as such, one strives to eat as close to paleo as possible. So yes, it's "Clean" eating largely.

    Ancestral eating is not a fad diet, but a lifestyle. You'll hear that a lot. If you're going to lump it in with Atkins and Southbeach, then you must also lump in Veganism, Carnivory, and Vegetarianism as "Fad diets" as well.
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    Paleo eating seems kind of like a no-brainer and follows what is currently being promoted--clean, healthy, void of processed foods...
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    Does 'clean' eating involve eating beef that was raised in a feed lot? Have you ever smelled one of those places?
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    Quote from KeepCalmCarryOn
    Does 'clean' eating involve eating beef that was raised in a feed lot? Have you ever smelled one of those places?
    no, feed lot cattle are not grass finished.....they are corn finished.
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    There is an interesting related recent article on this on Slate The real caveman diet: What did people eat in prehistoric times? - Slate Magazine
    We have altered vegetables and fruits so much by breeding that they no longer resemble their ancestors. This would make it difficult to truly find ancient food to eat.
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    Best dietary advice I've heard is from Michael Pollan:"Eat food. Not a lot. Mostly plants."
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    Sorry, but I'm blown away by a majority of these responses! Have ANY of you done your most basic science research??? Paleo is all about protein and natural foods. Essentially allowing your body to run off of ketone bodies. And your organs actually run MORE EFFICENTLY on ketone bodies. Crack open your micro bio books or your bio chem books and use an open mind. As someone who does the Paleo "diet" my blood work was so good my doctor asked what I was doing. Not only that, but it has cured so many diseases and allowed people to no longer be dependent on insulin when diabetic! Just because it's not something that you want to do (aka: give up the sugars, breads, government made foods) or would require self control doesn't mean it doesn't work. It's a VERY realistic lifestyle. It is not a "fad" diet. There is a difference between low carb diets and Paleo.Sure - its easier to throw medication down people's throats, but after reading your phamaracology texts, wouldn't it save 2833737 side effects from occurring if people just ATE real food???
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    Quote from FLRNR
    Sigh...Atkins, Zone, South Beach, Paleo, next??? Maybe portion control, exercise (cardio AND weights), non-processed foods, eliminate red meat, fresh fish once a week, eat your veggies. Sorry, no fancy or catchy name, just common sense. For the one who posted that the Paleo diet was/is a cure-all for your entire family - happy for you and yours and hope it continues.
    Because, portion control as a dietary recommendation has worked SOOO well thus far?? C'mon.... If you're eating hyper-palatable foods that cause insulin spikes and leptin resistance, you will lose the battle with your own BIOLOGY. (Much of that food is designed to encourage over-consumption) People will instinctively fight tooth and nail to avoid hunger pangs, it's our evolutionary programming. Being hungry is not natural. You shouldn't have to control your portions, your body should do it for you. And that's what happens with a clean, paleo, primal, diet.

    As for exercise, that's a huge part of the lifestyle. Heard of Crossfit? Yeah, most people who discovered this lifestyle did so via functional fitness.

    And yes, after 2 years, we're enjoying the amazing effects of eating healthy. And that doesn't involve having to actively think about "Portion control."
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    My husband has lost 50 lbs. this past year doing the Primal Blueprint diet. I don't follow it as closely but I do when I'm eating at home, and I've lost 20. There's definitely something to it - we've both struggled for years to lose weight.
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    I watched my father eat the diet as prescribed by the AHA, and he died at forty-five of a heart attack. I was on the same path. I was eating as the AHA recommends, and my labs were always horrible. Despite exercising vigorously at least an hour per day, and taking enough statins to treat a horse, my LDL and triglycerides were always through the roof. My HDL was always woefully low. I carried a good amount of visceral fat, despite my avoidance of fats and my lengthy exercise sessions. I had GERD daily, was placed on medication for HTN, and required pills to help me sleep.

    After switching to a paleo/primal diet my life changed dramatically and rapidly. I was off of BP medications in two weeks. Within a month I no longer required treatment for GERD. I stopped taking sleeping pills within several weeks. My labs have never been so good (i.e. my triglycerides went from as high as 1300 down to 45). I feel stronger and better than I did twenty years ago!

    So, yes, I absolutely educate my patients on the benefits of the pale/primal lifestyle. I point them in the direction of Robb Wolf (Paleo Diet Solution), Mark Sisson (Primal Blueprint), Gary Taubes (Why We Get Fat, and What to Do About It) and Dr. Davis (Wheat Belly).
    I have had patients come back to me months later and tell me that information (put into practice) changed there lives as well!


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