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by dutchgirl

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BEDPANS DON'T WORK FOR FEMALE URINATION!!! As if you didn't already know... We have been using emesis basins and suction for our post cardiac cath females who are flat on bedrest for anywhere from 2 to 4 hours. The basin can be... Read More


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    Quote from CaretakerNurse
    Guess you couldn't use on a hip patient, wonder how it would work though using the fracture pan with the suction??
    We have put the suction in the fracture pans as well, and that does work.too. But the emesis basin doesn't actually go undet the buttocks, it is stategically placed under the perineum, and the butt cheeks hold it in place.
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    Quote from Gompers
    I was thinking the same thing. When I was a CNA, I used fracture pans instead of regular bedpans on almost all my female patients - they just seemed much more comfortable. Might be easier than an emesis basin?

    Of course, I'm not one to talk - I'm forever devoted to the NICU, where Pampers rule the world!
    It probably would be difficult to get under a hip patient because their thighs are pretty close together. The nice thing about the shallow pan is you can get it in just by pushing it slightly into the mattress, no lifting of the patient. Just try putting the suction in the fracture pan , it;ll save you the problem of jockeying a full bedpan when trying to do the paperwork...
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    It was called a Millie and we never had any problems with it.A chux will make it ok.
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    Quote from P_RN
    It was called a Millie and we never had any problems with it.A chux will make it ok.
    A chux will make it OK for who? The patients dignity is still lost chux or not. What about being a pt. advocate?

    I will have to say, my mom just recovered from knee surgery, she had a foley, but the minute it was out, she had BRP and only with a nurse or PT helping her. That in itself was hard enough for her to get used to.
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    The Millie is handled by the patient. How much dignity would there be with an emesis basin and a yankaur suction? Besides a total knee patient would be up that night on my unit, and to the BR then or at least the next am. Some TKAs never even came to the floor.

    Sorry but some tiny amount of dignity is usually lost when one is dependent on others. A millie with a chux assures the perineum is covered, the bed is dry and the caregiver who empties it takes the chux with her.
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    I Don't Think Most Pt's Would Understand This Technique And Besides They Need To Be Getting Out Of Bed As Much As Possible
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    Quote from orthorn1969
    I Don't Think Most Pt's Would Understand This Technique And Besides They Need To Be Getting Out Of Bed As Much As Possible
    TO ENCOURAGE ROM AND DEEP BREATHING. ON OUR UNIT WE ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH FEMALE PT'S COMPLETELY EMPTYING THEIR BLADDER WHILE IN BED.


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