Should Surgical Technicians Circulate - page 3

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  1. by   Ferret
    Hi All,

    As I've said on other forums, here in Australia we don't have scrub techs. Only RN's scrub, as they are the SENIOR role responsible for the OR, and the scout, or circulating nurse is the junior role and can be done by an enrolled nurse, similar to your LPN's (I Think).

    We do have anaesthetic technicians in some hospitals.

    Does anyone know of any research articles available fulltext online that discusses the issue of technicians in the OR? There must be some literature available about this hotly debated issue. I am researching for a postgrad uni assignment on this issue and I would really appreciate any suggestions or good references either pro or con technicians in theatres.

    We don't have them here.... Yet.

    Thanks in advance for your help.
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from shodobe
    LPN2be2004, kind of curious what state you live in. This could clear up so many misconceptions. I was one of the first to respond and really had type out a very long answer, but held back so I would not offend. I am quite clear on my views of CSTs or STs, they have their place, I quess. In my opinion, the OR could due without them, an RN trained well is a much better choice. Techs are one dimensional(sp) and yes they can open things, go an fetch something, but still are not qualified to circ a room. This whole question is a mute point since the majority of states, I hope, go along the lines of the AORN standards. As stevierae posted earlier it is NOT exceptable for a Tech to be in charge of a room. I only wished the US would adopt the standards the UK has. This is only my opinion, Techs will be here forever, the hospitals will see to that. Techs are a cheap labor force produced to fill in needed lack of qualified professionals. I told you my opinion is sharp. Sorry to rub some people the wrong way. Mike


    I live in Virginia.

    (And yes your opinion is sharp, but it gives me more determination to get in the OR (not as a circulator, by far, i have no desire to do that for some reason), even if i'm not an RN yet. But then again i might get there and not even want to be an RN. Who knows.)
  3. by   Ferret
    Hey LPN2B, I was an enrolled nurse for 9 years before registering, an I STILL don't know what I want to do with my life.... take your experiences as they come, and use what you have as a foundation to build new stuff onto... it sure works for me!
  4. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Yep, that's what i'm doing.
  5. by   Ferret
    Wow, 4 of us here at once? what a hot topic....

    Good on you, LPN2B, go for it!
  6. by   Ferret
    I've done my paper, I'd be happy to email it to any interested parties...

    It was very interesting reading some of the worldwide literature on the subject. Thanks to all those who contributed to this thread, it certainly provided inspiration to me.
  7. by   RNKITTY04
    Wow what a great thread. I am a CST and am now in school to become a circulating RN. Lori, as always, is absolutly correct, I wanted to do more in the OR that is why I went back to school. Lonman I feel your remark to Lori was ugly and uncalled for.
    And no I did'nt learn a thing in nursing school that will help me in the OR except maybe some additional people skills and how to read lab results, I am counting on great OR nurses to teach me the rest as I will (hopefully someday) do for the next new nurse.
    I am proud to be a Surgical tech but even prouder to be a SN, soon to be GN than God willing an RN.
  8. by   orrnlori
    Good luck with school Kitty.
  9. by   Ferret
    Quote from RNKITTY04
    Lori, as always, is absolutly correct, I wanted to do more in the OR that is why I went back to school. Lonman I feel your remark to Lori was ugly and uncalled for.
    And no I did'nt learn a thing in nursing school that will help me in the OR
    G'day All,

    Way to go Kitty, I have to agree with all you've just said. Nursing and OR have little to do with each other, but it is the way that you learn to think, and the extra critical judgement and pathophysiology, and flexibility that makes all the difference. Besides, being registered, you have the legal responsibility and authority to take on all the roles in an OR.

    Lonman, we have no ST's in Australia, Only RN's scrub, and if your attitude is at all representative of your profession, I'm glad we have none of you here. I've been researching non-regulated heath care workers recently for a paper, and the conclusions were poor. Nurses should run all aspects of theatres.

    OR RN's ARE a cut above the rest.
    Jason 8^)
    Last edit by Ferret on May 15, '04 : Reason: spelling, quote
  10. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Lonman's attitude is NOT a respresentation of that profession.
  11. by   Ferret
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    Lonman's attitude is NOT a respresentation of that profession.
    I should hope not... things get hard enough in theatres without attitudes like that in a team. If ST is so good, why bother becoming an RN?

    Good luck with your studies, LPN2B!
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Just because they're not RNs doesn't make them bad either.
  13. by   Ferret
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    Just because they're not RNs doesn't make them bad either.
    I didn't suggest that. I was an Enrolled Nurse for 9 years, and know that RN's aren't the be all and end all. This opinion has been reinforced now that I am one. We can be quite full of ourselves. 8^)

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