Walden University has new FNP and AGNP Programs - page 4
Walden has started new a new FNP and AGNP enrolling now for start date in Sept, Oct, and Dec. hope this is helpful to people that are interested.... Read More
Aug 2, '12Does this program require campus visits at all during the whole course of the program? Any other FNP Masters program I've ever looked into, requires at least two campus visits. One in the beginning of the program and the second right before the clinical/preceptorship portion starts. I can't seem to find the answer to my question regarding Walden on its website.
Aug 2, '12There are no on-campus visits required. There are other universities, such as U of M-Flint, that does not require on campus visits and Georgetown.
Aug 2, '12It doesn't require any campus visits, however, I did speak with the Texas BON and they stated that the program must meet and teach all subjects required (which it does) and be CCNE certified (which it is) AND be approved by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, which Walden IS NOT. This means the clinicals won't count and we won't be allowed to sit for apn boards. I have contacted Walden regarding this and they don't have an answer for me yet, but are trying to find out what to do. The THECB said that Walden must submit an application for authorization for each clinical site used in the state of Texas in order for the clinical portion to be valid. Will post more once I hear from Walden. Very disappointed to say the least. Below is the email I received from the BON telling me what to check for:
"Thank you for your inquiry to the Board of Nursing. If your goal is to be authorized to practice as an Advanced Practice Nurse (APRN) in Texas, it will be important for you to study the requirements in Rule 221.3 Education. This rule may be accessed on the Board web page (www.bon.texas.gov) under Nursing Law & Rules. This will help you determine if the program has the essential courses to meet Texas requirements. Rule 221.2 lists the titles and roles recognized by the Texas Board. One of the requirements is for the graduate program to hold nursing accreditation by CCNE or NLNAC.
If you are resident in Texas and plan to take an online program, you might inquire about how they conduct their clinicals and how they arrange the supervision, if you are planning to carry out the clinical requirements in Texas. When a program conducts clinicals in Texas, they must receive approval from The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board to operate in Texas.
The Texas Board does not have purview over graduate nursing programs so we do not have a list of approved programs on our web site. CCNE and NLNAC both list the accredited programs on their web sites.
If you have further questions, please let me know. Thank you."
Aug 2, '12Quote from mylojoRNThank you... But after reading so many diverse opinions and mixed information, I feel safer to attend another university that's already been established. I'll check into Georgetown, but I know they are quite expensive. I have to find a good yet inexpensive program.There are no on-campus visits required. There are other universities, such as U of M-Flint, that does not require on campus visits and Georgetown.
Thanks.Last edit by MystyqueOne on Aug 2, '12
Aug 2, '12There are 2 required campus visits for the online FNP program at Georgetown. Just looked into that. Thanks.
Aug 2, '12Quote from mylojoRNThe FNP program online for Masters also requires 6-8 campus visits. The MSN to DNP is completely online with no campus visits. The BSN to FNP requires about 1 campus visit per year in the four year program.There are no on-campus visits required. There are other universities, such as U of M-Flint, that does not require on campus visits and Georgetown.
Nursing (Accelerated - MSN) | UM-Flint?
So, another reason why I'm hesitant on Walden University not requiring any campus visits when all other established and reputable universities do require campus visits.......
Aug 2, '12I have another concern. I spoke to my counselor regarding testing. He said that grades are based on paper writing only, and there are no tests. In my opinion this cannot possibly prepare one for passing the board exam. He said he would check into it further and let me know. He never did get back to me.
Aug 3, '12I just wanted to say that I spoke with the Texas BON on 8/2/12 and per the BON, the college that is supervising/offering clinicals (even if the student secures their own site) MUST be authorized by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board to have clinicals in Texas, they must obtain authorization for EACH site used in the state of Texas. Walden is NOT authorized nor have they applied for authorization for any site in Texas, emailed and spoke with the THECB regarding this matter myself. According to the THECB and BON, the clinicals performed, will be completely invalid and you will NOT be allowed to sit for boards. I notified my advisor of this and they've yet to provide me with any answer, except that they'll check into it. They pushed and pushed me to withdraw from my currently MSN program and join theirs but I researched the heck out of everything the BON told me to and found this out, just in time. BEWARE Texas residents and other states, make sure you check your BON requirements, they are being very fraudulent with the information and not telling students the truth.
Aug 3, '12I am wondering what they mean when they say they have the "approval" of the states listed on their sites. I previously spoke to the SBON in Missouri (my state) and was never told the information I received today. They told me today that the BON has no jurisdiction over graduate nursing programs and that any out-of-state on-line program must have the approval from that states Board of Higher Education. I have e-mailed my board of higher education as well as Walden, I will post replies here. I have asked since May, when I first looked at the program and never recieved a single bit of information regarding the clinical side of things. I was always told "it will be fine" and "I'll look in to it". Today I got an email (email@example.com) and have submitted my questions. Frustrated to say the least. To be continued.....
Aug 3, '12This college is very fraudulent and they are misleading students. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is!
Aug 3, '12I spoke to KBON today & they told me that they accepted Walden. I'm becoming concerned now with these posts.
Aug 6, '12I just finished speaking with a walden advisor, and i asked her the same question that everyone has been asking. She said that they have sent letters out to the THECB and that they are hoping to be certified or authorized by the beginning of fall term. I am not sure if this is true though.
Aug 6, '12The following is from the Missouri Dept. of Higher Educations web-site. It's no easy task to become accredited by the CCNE. This individual state process doesn't sound complicated. I am waiting to hear from Walden regarding this. I think it is premature to claim fraudulence. I do see a definite need to streamline the process for students to determine if completion of a program will guarantee that student being able to take the exam for their specialty. Frankly, I don't understand the purpose of allowing ANY school to operate without all proper accreditation in place. That goes for specific programs. I won't claim to understand the accreditation process at all, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I will follow up when I hear back from Walden on this. I see no reason to panic. They've been around for a long time. I went to a private college for my BSN, not an easy program to get in to, and they have instructors there who have recieved their MSN in Education from Walden. This process has been frustrating, but anything worth having is worth working for. It's the first year for this program, it's bound to have some kinks to be worked out. Every program out there had a "first year". Due diligence and patience and hopefully all will work out.
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