How does your facility utilize pitocin for post-3rd stage? - page 3

by klone

Once the placenta is delivered, most of our OBs like to have 20 mu Pit in the bag (or 10 mu if <500 ml in the bag), with the line opened up to free flow. One OB, however, likes to have 15 mu in the bag and 5 mu in the line as an... Read More

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    Quote from klone
    i totally agree that breastfeeding works best. unfortunately, we can't not carry out doctors' orders, and all the obs, without exception, have an order for 20 in the bag (or, in the case of the one aforementioned ob, 5 in the line and 5/15 in the bag).
    true, but we can educate the publlic about the whole thing, in hopes that more moms will refuse it or insist that the infusion be stopped once the birth is over and all is well.

    have any of you heard of a correlation between pitocin administration and edema pp?
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    33-weeker: Please read my post on the last page. I discussed Pitocin and its antidiuretic effects at some length there. Of course, you are correct; it's related. Pitocin is *well-known* to cause fluid retention. That is why I caution people not to over-bolus this drug (and IV fluids) post partum. In the worst case, it can lead to pulmonary edema if the nurse is not watching closely the I/O of her patient.

    And to the poster who asked about differences. Yes, I do see differences in how OBs and family practice docs do "business".....seems the family practice docs have traditionally been more patient and respectful of the natural process of labor and delivery in my experience (but not all are so). I find midwives the MOST patient and respectful, in most cases. Although, I have also observed CNMs who have adopted a more medical model of practice in the hospital environment, over time.

    It does indeed vary by practicioner.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Oct 18, '06
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    We push 10 units in the line, and add 20 units to current fluids, only 10 if less than 500ml; then we bolus 500 ml. We then give 1 to 2 bags of LR with 20 units of Pitocin added at 125ml/hr depending on the amount of bleeding.
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    I just started at a new hospital and some of their protocols are a bit different than what I'm used to. I'm wondering if any of you can give me a little clarification. Where I was working, we did all IV's to gravity and only ran pit, mag, insulin etc on a pump. Our standard was 20 units Pitocin to 1000 cc's Normusol (which is similar to LR). After delivery of placenta, we ran the Pit wide open until bleeding stabilized and could add up to 40 of Pit if the MD desired before going the miso, methergine, hemabate route. At my new hospital, they do 30 units of Pit in 500 cc's of D5W on the pump during labor and then keep it at 125/hr after delivery. However, if the pt hasn't been on Pit during labor, they add 10 units of Pit to 1000cc's LR and keep it at 125/hr. I'm curious--will this minimal amount of Pit really stop the bleeding/keep the fundus firm? I'm sure that my old hospital probably handed out Pitocin like it was candy so to speak...but this minimal amount of Pit especially in a multip concerns me. My other question (which noone can seem to answer at my new hospital) is in the use of the D5W. If you have a GDM patient, is using D5W appropriate? Even though it is a minimal amount of fluid infusing, I still think it could throw off BS. Any thoughts?? Thanks!!!
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    We use 10 U in 1000 ml bag. Usually 20 U in 1000 ml bag after C/S. After an hour or so with a vaginal birth, if uterus is firm and bleeding is fine, infusion is turned off.
    Last edit by jenrninmi on Dec 18, '06 : Reason: addition of comment
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    Like I posted earlier we do 5 units IV push or 10 units IM and generally that is all that is needed. We don't give it 20 or 40 units because it is not always necessary and why give them an infusion and keep them hooked to a pump when it is not needed.