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- Oct 1, '12 by babyRN.The other thing that is really cool is that the NHS pays for the education and they can even get a bursary (free money from what I can tell to live on). That helps to compensate the comparatively lower wages.
- Oct 1, '12 by Silverdragon102bursary isn't really enough to live on your own. I remember a single mum with a couple of kids and her bursary wasn't enough even though supposed to be based on a criteria and she worked most weekends to make ends meet. Generally first couple of years students tended to work mon-fri because they didn't get paid. However by final year was expected to start working weekends in preparation to working once qualified
- Oct 31, '12 by tahalversonHi, I have been an ICU nurse in the US for 4.5 years. I am working on my application to the NMC to get my UK license. I was wondering if anyone can give me the formula to convert my nursing credits into hours so I can help the dean of my school out with converting them. I have a BSN and am just concerned about the hours translating. Thank you
- Nov 7, '12 by babyRN.We can't really help you with the translation. Your dean needs to figure out exactly how many clinical hours you had in each course. Mine was something like 3 hours per week per credit per quarter. It's individual for each school.
- Jan 15 by silverhalideWondering about this as well -- I am currently an LPN, and wish to finish the LPN - ADN/RN through my school. Will the NMC accept that in conjunction with a RN to BSN program? What about an RN to MSN program?
- Jan 28 by feelslikefireSilverhalide, babyRN, I was wondering about this too. Is there an equivalent position to nurse practitioner in the UK, and would getting a direct entry MSN qualify me to work in the UK in any capacity as a nurse? I'm going to be 29 in two months, just starting my nursing prereqs (posted upthread a few months back - thanks again, babyRN!) and having to go through a regular 4-year degree program for BSN and THEN come back for NP degree sounds onerous, especially when I already have one undergraduate degree under my belt, and would really like to spend my early thirties traveling. Maybe I should just do travel nursing in the US and spend down time in Europe!
- Jan 28 by Silverdragon102The UK does use NP's and a lot regarding work will depend on experience and whether job meets shortage list for the UK. You need to check with the NMS whether direct entry to MSN will be accepted. Things at the moment are really tough in the UK for many professions that work within the NHS especially nurses
- Jan 28 by feelslikefireOh, that's excellent to know. Thanks for the heads-up, Silverdragon. I know it's tough all around right now, and that's one thing I'm trying to keep in mind as far as student loans vs. job opportunities go. Last thing I want is a 100k+ pile of loans and no job to show for it.
One question: you said "NMS" in your post; did you mean "NHS," or am I totally clueless here? Thank you again!
Edit: Please ignore my stupid questions, it's what I get for posting on 4 hours of sleep. Thanks for responding!Last edit by feelslikefire on Jan 28
- Jan 28 by babyRN.Yeah...I would e-mail them directly. Considering that they don't accept accelerated BSNs (even though they have the same number of hours as a "regular" BSN), I don't think they would accept direct-entry as most of them do an accelerated RN license program on the way to getting NP. The exception that I'm thinking of might be midwifery since it seems to be a different type of licensing compared to the US from what I've read.
Yeah, I would think you would do US traveling (although I don't know how good opportunities are for travel NPs; I know NNPs that do it, but I don't know about other specialties) and then go to Europe. Keep in mind that a NP in the UK makes roughly what a RN makes in the US, so you'd be taking a big paycut. The salaries are online and called "band levels" and NPs are generally under "Band 8a" (or at least they are for NNP jobs that I've seen) which start out at about 38,851 pounds = ~$61,000. On the one hand you have your healthcare paid for with lots of vacation time (although I don't know how that kind of scheduling works), but then you essentially have two tax income tiers of 20% and 40% with across the board 17.5% sales tax (you don't "see" it because everything's included in the price). You get a little more money if you live in London, but not enough (IMO) to meet the same standard of living since London is so expensive.
We hope to go in the future (10+ years) after we have kids so they can see grandma and grandpa more than once a year, but I think we'd have to drastically cut our lifestyle...you can't match this kind of experience, though, so we'll see how things turn out.
Hope this helps, some food for thought. Let us know if you decide to pursue it and what your results are: many people read this board even if they don't comment.