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- Sep 17, '12 by Silverdragon102Would just like to say that the same goes from UK to US it all goes on transcripts and not experience.Plus going to the UK apart from Overseas Nursing program you do not have to sit another exam but nurses not from the US have to sit NCLEX to be able to work in the US as a RN even if well experienced and have a license in the country they are living and workingLast edit by Silverdragon102 on Sep 17, '12 : Reason: add
- Sep 27, '12 by marksiThis is all very helpful information, as I'm applying to the NMC, as well. I just received my paperwork from the University where I received my Bachelor's of Nursing, and the hours they calculated as far short of what the NMC states in their informational sheet. My school only gave me 465 theory hours, and 1005 clinical. The NMC states in their brochure they require far more. Has any one had this discrepancy and finished the process? Did anyone have to work additional hours under observation to make up for these hours? or does the NMC somehow acknowledge the degree equivalency without further requirements besides the overseas nursing program?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
- Sep 29, '12 by babyRN.this was my experience as an American BSN. You need at least 1500 hours total, at least half are clinical and at least 1/3 are theory. You might be able to add some theory hours with required pre-req's for nursing; I would ask Continental Travel for advice as they are very helpful.
- Sep 29, '12 by marksithanks for the advice, babyRN. I'm probably worrying too much. I can't imagine nursing schools in the UK are that different from the US.
Are you working in the UK now? If so, how's the job market for nursing?
- Sep 29, '12 by babyRN.Marksi, they actually are super different. I had something like 700-800 clinical hours in a 4 year BSN and they do 2300 in 3 years. I really don't know how they do it. I felt overwhelmed enough doing my 16 hours a week and turning in 10 page write ups that took hours upon hours. Heed my warning, you need to show at least 1500 hours total, that's what the decision officer told me was the minimum. Other people have gone back to their nursing schools and asked to recheck the hours because they do make mistakes since they don't do this kind of a thing on a regular basis.
No, we don't plan to move to the UK for many years (want to go when we have kids that are old enough to remember their grandma and the time spent in the UK, although the new family immigration rules are making this particularly difficult).
Job market for nursing seems to be okay for agency nursing, but not for permanent nursing from all I've been reading. Kinda sad because agency nursing is a short-gap measure and can't continue to forever in a large capacity. You'll need visa sponsorship or be a UKC or an immediate relative of one to go over...
- Sep 29, '12 by marksithat's incredible. I know what you mean. I was overwhelmed by my nursing program as well. Maybe we have more documentation than they do, regarding care plans, etc. Who knows? I know that the community college nursing programs have more clinical hours than BSN programs.
I have italian/US citizenship, so am not worried about visa issues. I'm actually trying to get my license recognized in France, but they are such a pain in the ___, regarding getting my american diploma recognized, that's it would actually be easier to get my UK license first, then bring that to the french nursing order. That way I wouldn't have to repeat nursing school in France. So much work for so little pay, but it'll be worth it in the long run, since I think the french health care system is very efficiently run (plus I have family there). And I really like the quality of life in France.
thanks again for your advice.
- UK training is done through the university and is full time. Many spend weeks on the wards doing clinical placement with weeks also spent in classrooms doing threory. The course is full time with no breaks through the summer or winter so when the rest of the university takes a summer break nursing continues on through.
THis should give you an idea on training
Nursing (Adult), BSc(Hons) - 2013-14 - University of Huddersfield
- Sep 30, '12 by marksithanks Silverdragon, for the info on what nursing school is like in the UK. It sounds like a 3 year bootcamp! I felt somewhat unprepared after I graduated from my US nursing program. Luckily I was already working as a CNA in two hospitals, and they both hired me on as an RN. So I already knew the nurses and they were excellent mentors. I still felt the "real" training came on the job after nursing school.
- yep, can be hard but generally the students are not included in the numbers but work with someone on the ward and can do some other stuff if required. They have to do a few case studies and if the patient is going for further examinations or surgery being extra means they can follow through. The hospitals are also supposed to offer perceptorship and mentorship but that doesn't always work due to short staffing and looking at UK news there is a lot tougher things ahead. One hospital I used to work at has just done some mandatory redundancies and a mixture across the board have lost their jobs including senior nursing staff
- Also don't get me wrong, the nursing students do get vacation time just not as much as the main university and usually only a couple of weeks at a time