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    Just starting on floor rotations after my med surg course! I have a pt diagnosed with pancreatitis. She was admitted with ABD pain and Nausea/vomiting. (Which was later said to be the pancreatitis.) anyways I was thinking of going the Nausea route. She is also a type II diabetic. Of course a short term goal would be to relieve the nausea/vomiting or pain but I need help with the rest. Some of the interventions and rationales and a long term! Would my AEB diabetes? Ah! Thank You!!!!
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    Your evidence for pancreatitis (or nausea or abd pain) is not diabetes.

    AEB means, these are the defining characteristics that made it possible for me to identify the nursing diagnosis, because they appear in the NANDA-I 2012-2014 nursing diagnosis of (X). I am not at my desk right now so I don't have my NANDA-I to hand, but the NANDA-I 2012-2014 definition of Nausea is:

    • Nausea: A subjective phenomenon of an unpleasant feeling in the back of the throat and stomach that may or may not result in vomiting (Domain 12: Comfort, Class 1: Physical comfort)
    You will need to look at the diagnosis in NANDA-I for the defining characteristics and related (-to) factors. Briefly, defining characteristics are the data points that define the diagnosis (like how, oh, a low hematocrit defines the medical diagnosis of anemia) and the related factors (the causes of those data points, like, in the case of anemia, perhaps chronic illness, occult or obvious bleeding, or other illness or injury, that is the cause of the medical diagnosis).

    Remember that nursing diagnosis does not derive from medical diagnosis. When you find yourself saying something like "My patient has (medical diagnosis and medical diagnosis) so this is my idea for nursing diagnosis," you're on the wrong track. Nursing diagnosis derives from observation and analysis of many factors, but they are independent of medical diagnosis. So...what did you observe in your patient? What did he look like, tell you, demonstrate?

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    Quote from mirandavance2
    Just starting on floor rotations after my med surg course! I have a pt diagnosed with pancreatitis. She was admitted with ABD pain and Nausea/vomiting. (Which was later said to be the pancreatitis.) anyways I was thinking of going the Nausea route. She is also a type II diabetic. Of course a short term goal would be to relieve the nausea/vomiting or pain but I need help with the rest. Some of the interventions and rationales and a long term! Would my AEB diabetes? Ah! Thank You!!!!
    Welcome to AN! The largest online nursing community!

    We are happy to help but we need to see what you think first. You are falling into the common trap of all new students of picking your diagnosis first from the medical diagnosis and fitting the patient into that diagnosis. What care plan book do you have? Do you have a NANDA I book with the diagnosis and the definition/characteristics etc to guide you to you diagnosis?

    Here is what I know........Let the patient/patient assessment drive your diagnosis. Do not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first. You need to know the pathophysiology of your disease process. You need to assess your patient, collect data then find a diagnosis.

    Let the patient data drive the diagnosis
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    What is your assessment? What are the vital signs? What is your assessment. Is the the patient having pain? Are they having difficulty with ADLS? What teaching do they need? What does the patient need? What is the most important to them now? What is important for them to know in the future.

    The medical diagnosis is the disease itself. It is what the patient has not necessarily what the patient needs. the nursing diagnosis is what are you going to do about it, what are you going to look for, and what do you need to do/look for first.

    Care plans when you are in school are teaching you what you need to do to actually look for, what you need to do to intervene and improve for the patient to be well and return to their previous level of life or to make them the best you you can be. It is trying to teach you how to think like a nurse.

    Think of the care plan as a recipe to caring for your patient. your plan of how you are going to care for them. how you are going to care for them. what you want to happen as a result of your caring for them. What would you like to see for them in the future, even if that goal is that you don't want them to become worse, maintain the same, or even to have a peaceful pain free death.

    Every single nursing diagnosis has its own set of symptoms, or defining characteristics. they are listed in the NANDA taxonomy and in many of the current nursing care plan books that are currently on the market that include nursing diagnosis information. You need to have access to these books when you are working on care plans. You need to use the nursing diagnoses that NANDA has defined and given related factors and defining characteristics for. These books have what you need to get this information to help you in writing care plans so you diagnose your patients correctly. I use
    Ackley: Nursing Diagnosis Handbook, 9th Edition and Gulanick: Nursing Care Plans, 7th Edition

    Don't focus your efforts on the nursing diagnoses when you should be focusing on the assessment and the patients abnormal data that you collected. These will become their symptoms, or what NANDA calls defining characteristics.
    From a very wise an contributor daytonite.......make sure you follow these steps first and in order and let the patient drive your diagnosis not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first.

    Here are the steps of the nursing process and what you should be doing in each step when you are doing a written care plan: ADPIE

    1. Assessment (collect data from medical record, do a physical assessment of the patient, assess ADLS, look up information about your patient's medical diseases/conditions to learn about the signs and symptoms and pathophysiology)
    2. Determination of the patient's problem(s)/nursing diagnosis (make a list of the abnormal assessment data, match your abnormal assessment data to likely nursing diagnoses, decide on the nursing diagnoses to use)
    3. Planning (write measurable goals/outcomes and nursing interventions)
    4. Implementation (initiate the care plan)
    5. Evaluation (determine if goals/outcomes have been met)

    Care plan reality: The foundation of any care plan is the signs, symptoms or responses that patient is having to what is happening to them. What is happening to them could be the medical disease, a physical condition, a failure to perform ADLS (activities of daily living), or a failure to be able to interact appropriately or successfully within their environment. Therefore, one of your primary goals as a problem solver is to collect as much data as you can get your hands on. The more the better. You have to be the detective and always be on the alert and lookout for clues, at all times, and that is Step #1 of the nursing process.

    Assessment is an important skill. It will take you a long time to become proficient in assessing patients. Assessment not only includes doing the traditional head-to-toe exam, but also listening to what patients have to say and questioning them. History can reveal import clues. It takes time and experience to know what questions to ask to elicit good answers (interview skills). Part of this assessment process is knowing the pathophysiology of the medical disease or condition that the patient has. But, there will be times that this won't be known. Just keep in mind that you have to be like a nurse detective always snooping around and looking for those clues.

    A nursing diagnosis standing by itself means nothing. The meat of this care plan of yours will lie in the abnormal data (symptoms) that you collected during your assessment of this patient......in order for you to pick any nursing diagnoses for a patient you need to know what the patient's symptoms are. Although your patient isn't real you do have information available.

    What I would suggest you do is to work the nursing process from step #1. Take a look at the information you collected on the patient during your physical assessment and review of their medical record. Start making a list of abnormal data which will now become a list of their symptoms. Don't forget to include an assessment of their ability to perform ADLS (because that's what we nurses shine at). The ADLS are bathing, dressing, transferring from bed or chair, walking, eating, toilet use, and grooming. and, one more thing you should do is to look up information about symptoms that stand out to you. What is the physiology and what are the signs and symptoms (manifestations) you are likely to see in the patient. did you miss any of the signs and symptoms in the patient? if so, now is the time to add them to your list. This is all part of preparing to move onto step #2 of the process which is determining your patient's problem and choosing nursing diagnoses. but, you have to have those signs, symptoms and patient responses to back it all up.

    Care plan reality: What you are calling a nursing diagnosis is actually a shorthand label for the patient problem.. The patient problem is more accurately described in the definition of the nursing diagnosis.
    What care plan book do you use?

    Now tell me bout your patient....

    What do you think they need?
    How would you know that?
    What are your vital signs?
    What is your assessment?
    What does you patient say?
    What are their labs?
    What is pancreatitis?
    What does this cause?
    What complications are there
    What is diabetes?
    What complications exist?
    How does this effect the pancreatitis if at all?
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