Can you understand this? Board of Alabama re this program - page 2

by snowiebella

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Hi everyone, I am an LPN in Alabama and went to our board of nursing today online to see if there was anything saying we could'nt use Excelsior College to get our RN. I found the following message on their site and its... Read More


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    Quote from NurseCubanitaRN2b
    Sighhhhh, why are more states not accepting Excelsior? This is irritating as a school that has won nursing awards and has produced excellent nurses are being banned basically.
    Because all states require that graduates of every other school of nursing have completed XXX number of supervised hours of clinical instruction, often (in many states) required to be concurrent with didactic instruction, in order to be eligible for licensure. And the EC program doesn't meet that requirement. I don't mean this as any criticism of EC graduates but, just as a matter of basic fairness, I don't see why more states don't refuse to license EC grads, or set limits/restrictions on licensing them. I sincerely don't understand why EC and its students think that they should get some special exception from the rules that graduates of every other nursing school have to meet. Or, as an alternative, if the EC model is the way to go, let's eliminate clinical from all nursing schools, and just let students figure everything out for themselves ...
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    Quote from elkpark
    because all states require that graduates of every other school of nursing have completed xxx number of supervised hours of clinical instruction, often (in many states) required to be concurrent with didactic instruction, in order to be eligible for licensure. and the ec program doesn't meet that requirement. i don't mean this as any criticism of ec graduates but, just as a matter of basic fairness, i don't see why more states don't refuse to license ec grads, or set limits/restrictions on licensing them. i sincerely don't understand why ec and its students think that they should get some special exception from the rules that graduates of every other nursing school have to meet. or, as an alternative, if the ec model is the way to go, let's eliminate clinical from all nursing schools, and just let students figure everything out for themselves ...
    umm...because i am an lpn who did x number of supervised hours of clinical rotation that were concurrent with didactic instruction.

    yeah and i know some people from their rn (adn/bsn) programs who never even inserted a foley in or gave an im injection so you are right these people are better than me after i passed my nclex-rn with 2 years of lpn experience.

    plus, as you know real nursing is ojt supported by textbook knowledge.

    Last edit by agldragonRN on Sep 7, '10
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    yes, i have clinical hours in all those areas of nursing. plus we even got to go do a rotation in the er, oncology, dialysis, and icu, as you stated. what more do they want? there are 37 states that approve excelsior, i see the majority doesn't have a problem. the problem lies with the 13 states that have issues, not the 37 that don't. i just don't get it, they will approve foreign education (i'm speaking of the ones with limited clinical experience) over a school accredited by the nln. lol doesn't make sense to me.
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    I understand the whole wanting clinical hours completed. I had over 1000 hours of clinicals in my LVN program. I've had a lot of hands on experience that most RN students were never able to experience. I had a friend who graduated from nursing school in the Philippines who didn't even get to start an IV or do IV pushes in school and didn't even know what the Z-Track Method was.

    If you don't have clinical hours as any type of nurse, then yes you should have to do some sort of clinical rotation before you're allowed to be licensed as a RN. But for those of us who are LVN/LPN, we do have the clinical experience.
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    Quote from nursecubanitarn2b

    i just don't get it, they will approve foreign education (i'm speaking of the ones with limited clinical experience) over a school accredited by the nln. lol doesn't make sense to me.
    i was going to mention foreign education also but stopped because i didn't want to criticize it as i have aunts and cousins who got their bsns from the philippines but how sure are these boards that their education met the standard when us lpns/lvns actually did our clinicals here in the u.s.

    anyway, sorry op if we hijacked your thread but i wish you luck and i hope you find the correct information about your situation. good luck!
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    Yup, I did hijack the thread, and I apologize. Okkkkk now, ALABAMA, what are your plans in order to get licensed? Do you live in an area that's close to a neighboring state that accepts Excelsior? Maybe you can work there for the required amount of time and then apply for endorsement. I wish I had that opportunity but CA is just big and the nearest border is the ocean
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    Don't forget that you can also work at a VA hospital or on a military base hospital if that is nearby with ANY state license! =)
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    Quote from tashaLPN2006
    Don't forget that you can also work at a VA hospital or on a military base hospital if that is nearby with ANY state license! =)
    Very limited VA Hospitals and absolutely no military bases nearby. Wish there was better news for us CA students as most of us are getting frustrated with the waiting game. Thanks for the suggestion though, maybe it can help someone else.
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    Thanks everyone, We want to live in Alaska anyhow (been there). I guess there's no time like the present. I am a veteran so will check into the hospitals too. Going to check Alaska's BON now. I am SO excited about this option to get my RN degree! Congrats to all of you too!


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