When the Hospital Fires the Bullet - page 3

The NY Times ran an article about armed guards in hospitals. The patient profiled went to the hospital during a manic episode, seeking treatment for suspected bipolar disorder. He ended up shot in... Read More

  1. by   CryssyD
    Correctamundo. It is indeed a police problem. The problem is that policemen were armed inside a hospital and responded to a perceived security threat AS POLICEMEN. In other words, they acted to protect themselves first, and the patient/"aggressor"(because I have not one shred of doubt that that is how they defined him in their reports) second. As we all know, people are often in hospitals when they are mentally at their very worst--they are stressed, scared, angry, injured, in crisis, or impaired. Maybe all of the above. Policemen are NOT adequately trained to deal with people in these situations. I know they should be, but I'm a realist; they are not.

    I don't want to start a debate about whether the vast majority of police are good and decent people. Of course they are. But lethal force should not be an option within the confines of a hospital. And no one would consider it necessary if this country weren't armed to the teeth. But armed security guards are not the answer.

    QUOTE from Asystole RN: I am not sure what this has to do with "bean counters" but this does have to do with POLICE OFFICERS defending themselves with lethal force. Whether or not they were justified in that defense the article did not even try to comment on. The article does not expand upon this particular situation and whether or not the patient received reasonable and prudent care up to the fight. Considering he was just admitted hours earlier, I doubt there was enough time to conduct a full psych eval...let alone completely rule out any other medical causes.

    This is a police issue, not a nurse, doctor, or hospital issue IMHO.[/QUOTE]
  2. by   CryssyD
    Quote from ®Nurse
    I think nurses should have access to Xanax/Haldol coated blow darts for the out-of-control patients.......
    Perhaps they should also have them for out-of-control security guards, too.

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