Speaking About Nurses Who Moonlight As Dancers - page 2

Blonde bombshell Amy Toliver leads a double life to fulfill an incredible dream. The Phoenix resident sheds her clothes several times each week nightly at "iCandy Burlesque" in Planet Hollywood's... Read More

  1. Visit  ipalomeque} profile page
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    I think this serves as an inspiration to other students (of any major). This speaks volumes about her character, just by adjusting her schedule to be able to work and go to nursing school simultaneously. We are not in any position to judge any individual on how they produce a living for themselves, as we do not know her current situation or her previous background. I bartended through nursing school myself so I did worry about job prospects upon graduation. To my surprise, employers looked at me in a more favorable way simply because I was able to handle a greater load of responsibility on my plate, deeming me a great multi-tasker. By the time I graduated school, I had 3 job offers on the table, not just 1 !! Kudos to her and I wish her the very best !!
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  3. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    As long as she isn't hurting anyone, who cares? Nursing school is expensive. In fact, I knew a couple people who did stags on the weekend when we were in school.
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    Quote from cbond
    Good for her but she's talking about continuing to dance after she's working as a nurse? I thought there were like behaviour codes at hospitals. You know they want nurses to be "Florence Nightingale" pure as the driven snow? haha.

    I thought I heard of some nurse who lost her job for making her own website featuring herself in all her naked glory.. but maybe this is OK now.
    State BONs usually have a general moral clause along the lines of "... a person shall be of good moral character" to obtain and keep a nursing license, however that term is often open to broad interpretation.

    Could be wrong but the days of discharging a nurse and or revoking her license just because of something she does on her own time are over. Yes back in the day a hospital could forbid you from being seen in a bar, smoking or some such but I'd like to see anyone try to enforce that today.

    In many states and by federal law IIRC the bar to deprive one from earning a living is very high. Aside from criminal or offense convictions and a few other big things, your life is your own.

    According to persons one knows there are even former "working girls" that have become nurses.
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    Idk I wonder if she did get fired for this could she sue for discrimination. After all there are nurses who have gotten DUIs etc and still working. What she is doing is legal?
    Long as she confines her activities to that pole or stripping, in that state she is doing nothing illegal.
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    Quote from serenitylove14
    Idk I wonder if she did get fired for this could she sue for discrimination. After all there are nurses who have gotten DUIs etc and still working. What she is doing is legal?
    Employers can fire you for having purple hair. Tatoo's and piercings. If you are too fat. If you have a mental illness. If you smoke. If you are on certain meds. Frankly they can do whatever they wish.....especially in this ecnomic climate.

    Being a stripper isn't a protected class according to the ADA (American disabilities act).

    She may find that while Nevada may not have an issue with her profession right now. Many state boards have "morality" clauses and hospital employers may not find her public display of her talents "distraction" and "conduct unbecoming" as well as not a image they want associated with their facility.

    Nurses with DUI's and nursing student applying for NCLEX are finding that having a criminal record is not conducive to being a nurse or being able to practice nursing in most states.

    Personally.....I think stripping is her choice and her public airing of her private life is not appropriate and will come back to hurt her future employment opportunities. As a manager I would hesitate hiring this individual....especially in the Nevada area for the potential "issues" and commotion that will follow her present recognition and the notoriety that will follow her.

    I wish her the best......
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    State BONs usually have a general moral clause along the lines of "... a person shall be of good moral character" to obtain and keep a nursing license, however that term is often open to broad interpretation.

    Could be wrong but the days of discharging a nurse and or revoking her license just because of something she does on her own time are over. Yes back in the day a hospital could forbid you from being seen in a bar, smoking or some such but I'd like to see anyone try to enforce that today.

    In many states and by federal law IIRC the bar to deprive one from earning a living is very high. Aside from criminal or offense convictions and a few other big things, your life is your own.

    According to persons one knows there are even former "working girls" that have become nurses.
    I couldn't disagree more.....I think hospitals and the BON have become less tolerant and are more than happy to enforce whatever morality clause they wish. They have become highly selective and many drug test for drugs and nicotine and will not hire them.

    I think she may find this public display of her employment in the public eye and social media...a poor choice.
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    Quote from Esme12
    Employers can fire you for having purple hair. Tatoo's and piercings. If you are too fat. If you have a mental illness. If you smoke. If you are on certain meds. Frankly they can do whatever they wish.....especially in this ecnomic climate.

    Being a stripper isn't a protected class according to the ADA (American disabilities act).
    Esme, certain mental illnesses are protected by the ADA.
    Last edit by mariebailey on Feb 11, '13
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    Quote from Esme12
    I couldn't disagree more.....I think hospitals and the BON have become less tolerant and are more than happy to enforce whatever morality clause they wish. They have become highly selective and many drug test for drugs and nicotine and will not hire them.

    I think she may find this public display of her employment in the public eye and social media...a poor choice.
    As always I will bow to your judgement on these matters and stand corrected.
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    ....no bowing necessary only scraping..... (just kidding).

    I have been a nurse a long time......I can for see in my crystal potential problems for this young lady in the future. She could be a card carrying member of Mensa but I don't think that will help....in some instances.

    Is it right? No.....Will it happen? Probably....sigh
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    Quote from mariebailey
    Esme, certain mental illnesses are protected by the ADA.
    I agree as are most other disabilities....but that doesn't mean it is easy to prove that a hospital discriminated against you for they know exactly how to document to void a lawsuit, procuring a lawyer is cost prohibitive and they take very few pro-bono discrimination cases. As a sufferer of an auto-immune muscular disorder that "hid it" for many years....trust me when I say hospitals discriminate and nurses discriminate even more.

    What most nurses do not know is that there are states that make mental illness and substance issues for licensed individuals....mandatory reported issues. The BON then decided treatment, working and licensing "fitness" and can refusing licensing, monitor the licensee,and place restrictions on licenses all without the licensee/patients knowledge...until they are notified by the board of course.....all for the protection of the public.

    Just because you have a protected disability status doesn't mean the hospital has to hire you....or accommodate your disability.....I speak from personal experience.

    Many hospitals have morality clauses and so do the state boards. IMHO....I think she will regret her public profile in the near future.....I pray that I am wrong.
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    Hopefully, by the time she starts her job search, no one will even remember the article. Hospitals can find all kinds of reasons to terminate or not to hire....and that individual will never know the real reason. Wrong, yes, but this happens all the time. Definitely not wise to broadcast your extra cirricular activities, that's for sure.
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    I don't think this is bad at all. She's not a stripper in a dingy place near a truck stop. She's a dancer in a burlesque show. Big difference.

    I do think she's a little unrealistic about her future though. She wants to be a travel nurse after graduation and then go into the army? Not gonna happen. She could go straight into the Air Force for some good trauma training and then travel though.

    Good for her! She's got a lot if debt to pay down.

    Sent from my iPhone using allnurses.com
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  14. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    I've read the article, and I noticed this, too. She will find that nursing isn't as easy to break into as she thinks, especially travel nursing.


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