What good does a BS RN with state licensure if no credible hospital will hire you?

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I went through the background check HELL in Texas in 2003. I was fortunate enough in that I was only about 2 years into a BS RN program in college and decided to simultaneously take a short vocational course to get my CNA so I could start applying at the major hospitals as a PCT (Patient Care Tech) while still finishing my RN. Boy, was I dropped into a vat of boiling reality. About 8 years prior to returning to college at 42 years old in 2003 I had written several checks all under $100 for groceries, etc. and then closed my account and had to move. It took about 1-2 years before I realized these checks had hit my prior bank account and then went into warrant. I found out by being pulled over for a burnt off tail light and then I was taken to jail for the warrants. So, I have Class C Misdemeanor offenses on my record. All fines and fees were paid so all matters closed BUT I pled "no contest" which is the same as a guilty plea. It is on my record for LIFE...as if I had been a serial murderer....so YEAH!!! Here's the real kicker: I was taking a full load in college working on my nursing pre-reqs and also taking the crash course of about 6-8 weeks to get my CNA. I made it and got my CNA and applied and went through permanent offers of employment from FOUR major hospitals in the DFW area. Within a few days of my start date, every one RESCINDED (removed/retracted) their offers stating the information on my prior misdemeanors prevented their "risk management/admin hiring board" to hire me. They did a background check and YES, I was full disclosure on their application about my misdemeanors thinking there would be no way they would reject me based on a few returned check offenses from 8-9 years prior...right? By the way, it is better to disclose it on the application because they WILL do a full background report and you will only look like a LIAR in addition to whatever they find on your background report so just throw it up out of the gate people.

Now also add to this that I have been a paralegal for 22 years prior to this so I was interviewed by 2 DONs (Director of Nurses) at these hospitals and 2 ER nurse managers. After they saw my resume with my computer skills and legal background and seeing a print out of my grades in A&P I and II, they were literally salivating and couldn't wait to get me in their group. Some JACK WAGON in the hospital's "risk management / hiring approval board" pulled the plug. Again, this happened at FOUR of the major hospitals, Texas Health Resources, Tenet...etc. My legal professional and personal references all checked out, my grades were excellent and my prior work history in the legal field was excellent. This is what plays in my brain about all of this...some little 22 year old who has a degree in business is sitting in their "risk management/admin" hiring dept and they get the background report back and put a big red REJECT stamp on my background report and application as well as many other people's from what I am reading on nurse posting boards and blogs like this one. I am apparently not alone so I wanted to share my experience as well.

NICE HUH?!!!

I also petitioned the BON in Austin to pre-approve me through a Declaratory Order to sit for the NCLEX and I was cleared from them.

What good does a BS RN with state licensure if NO CREDIBLE HOSPITAL WILL HIRE YOU?!

This is just absolutely bone ***** CRAZY. AND...let's see, with our record aging population of the baby boomers which I am a part of --- the health care field and health care providers will be strained now and going forward in the next 10-15 years more than it has ever been in HISTORY!!!

Oh, and another nice ironic note to all of this is my mother who is in her 80s now was a medical recruiter the last 10 years before she retired in her early 70s so I know "what's up".

Can someone FIX THIS CRAZINESS??? It will obviously have to be on a judicial level and it will take some serious kicking up the legislative ladder to get it done.

Bottom Line is this:

If you think you have anything on your background, even Class C Misdemeanors...disclose it up front and it may serve you well if you apply at hospitals for non-nursing positions to see if they would even give you a second look. Wouldn't you rather do that then bust your a... in nursing school which by the way folks, as you all know is hard as h..... You are taking pre-med classes where the drop out rates are 50-70%, and you have the 2 strike rule in most colleges so if you retake it you better make a solid B or A to have a rat's chance when you apply for nursing school - the last portion of your degree plan and you are, depending on the school one of 1000-2500 applicants applying for 150-300 slots...you get in and many have to apply with decent GPAs 2 or 3 times before they get into nursing school...you make it through and you take your NCLEX with the BON and you get that approval also so YEAH!!! Now you are ready to apply for what you have worked so hard to get...that nursing position with a major hospital or clinic facility and you interview, butterflies in your stomach...you may tell several family members and friends about your job offer from one of the big hospitals in your city and you start in 10 days. You go to your mailbox and find a letter from the hospital which includes a printout of your background report and a short form letter from the hospital rescinding their job offer.

Your guts are now shreaded and laying on your floor and you start crying.

Here's a question I have...does anyone remember the CNA several years ago that was driving home from being out with friends at 2 or 3 in the morning and she admitted to having consumed alcohol and she hit a homeless man under an underpass and KNEW she had a dying man half way impailed in her windshield and pulled into her garage and left him there to DIE through the rest of the night/morning before calling a couple of friends to go with her to dump his body at a local part...SHE WAS EMPLOYED BY A MAJOR HOSPITAL.

I am new to this website and am completely dumbfounded by all the information. How does a person with a past "move past their past". My daughter (who lives in California) went through a rough couple of years ages 19 through 22. During that time she "earned" a misdemeanor for shoplifting...completed the one year probation had her record expunged..year and a half later same thing...Crazy stupid behavior which alerted us to drug problem (she has no drug related charges). She went to rehab..clean and sober 3+ years. She completed her 3 years probation and has had her record expunged (which seems like it doesn't do any good as far as looking for a job from what I am reading) Totally different person than who she was when she was using but now she has to pay for her past choices which she accepts...during the last 2-3 years she helped to care for her grandparents and would very much like to become a CNA. It does look like she can eventually obtain her license/certificate according to peoples experience with the BON but the question is does anyone ever find a job. Can or will hospitals or Long Term Care Facilities/NursingHomes hire someone with an expunged theft record. It just all seems kind of hopeless.

If anybody has any suggestions or knows anything about nursing home standards for hiring. My daughter knows that a hospital is pretty much out of the picture for her. When a Long Term Care Facility or Nursing Home says "must pass background check" what does that mean. Any insight from anyone out there would be much appreciated. She is in the information gathering phase and is trying to decide whether she is just going down a dead end career choice. Thanks and sorry for ranting earlier...its just all a little bit much when you start reading everything!

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.
When a Long Term Care Facility or Nursing Home says "must pass background check" what does that mean. Any insight from anyone out there would be much appreciated.

It pretty much means what it says: your daughter will have to undergo a background check and the results have to be to the LTC/nursing home's liking. Unfortunately, shoplifting and theft convictions are a deal-breaker for many LTCs and nursing homes. Even though they're expunged, there may still be some record of the incidents remaining on her background check.

As far as whether someone will hire her with her criminal record, that depends. Facilities make these decisions on a case-by-case basis. Applicants with a criminal history are usually asked to submit a statement about the conviction(s) and any supporting evidence that shows rehabilitation.

Keep in mind that while expungements can help in the Job Search, they do not magically make everything better because they do not entirely remove the incidents from your daughter's criminal record. You (or she) should consult with an attorney to learn exactly what an expungement does and doesn't do, as we can't give legal advice.

There are nurses/CNAs/healthcare workers with criminal histories being hired. However, it's neither easy nor guaranteed...especially in this job market where there's a glut of people competing for too few positions. Only she can decide if training to be a CNA will be worth the gamble.

Best of luck to both of you.

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