Do you think acute care nursing is becoming less safe?

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My facility, like many, has increased staffing ratios in all departments in response to the economic pressures. Meanwhile, the Joint Commission continues to mandate supposed safety concerns, with mostly extra documentation demands and other inconveniences. They fail to address the elephant in the room, nurse/patient ratios.

I think bedside nursing has become less safe. From the ER point of view, we are less able to safely monitor patients, there is more friction with the inpatient nurses as they are too bogged down to receive patients. There is a cold war going on between some of our ER nurses and floor nurses, causing a big distraction and detracting from teamwork for the greater good.

Meanwhile, we're getting ready for the Joint Commission inspection and are going to be temporarily inconvenienced by their nonsensical edicts. No IV buckets to be left out on the counters of the nurses station, and other rules that are so minor compared with the real problems that we are dealing with. Of course, like other facilities, we have to spend money to hires nurses to make sure that our charting pleases them, that we fill in the many mandatory charting prompts to their satisfaction.

Nursing has become a bureaucratic mess, bogged down in more and more red tape than ever before. All this to be accomplished with fewer nurses at the bedside, and more nurses behind the scene. Insurance companies and the government are running things, and hospital administrators focused on the bottom line. If we keep going down this road, I think we are going to implode.

We have basically been told that we need to have "the customer is always right" mentality because we are being reimbursed according to patient satisfaction. Our ancillary staff is not only for the most part horrible (long dinner breaks, on the phone all shift, chatting, "forgetting" vital signs or not doing them because they were "too busy") but also few and far between. When 3-4 are scheduled for a shift (28 bed unit), it's a miracle but between call out, 1:1 observation, we are lucky to have 2. Our patients are getting sicker and it's hard to find the balance between doing no harm, prioritizing due to acuity and nursing need, and trying to keep the difficult stable patients "happy" enough to give us good scores. And let's be honest, we've all had that patient who doesn't see the nurse enough, isn't given enough pain medications, doesn't like the food, etc. that will grade us poorly regardless of whether we are in there for 5 minutes or 5 hours on any given shift.

This discussion is so important to the world of not only nursing but health care in general. nursing and its tentacles seem to reach just about everywhere, and when one makes the comment that the fear of having a patient killed during a hospital stay is so paramount to warrant a body guard of sorts is the attitude heard across the country. And below the surface the nurse who says this is the one who gets killed. You've got no idea the dangers that await you when you talk like this. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arizona-State-Board-of-Nursing-Corruption/687108521368987?ref=hl

Yes, it is more dangerous.

If the general public could see what I see on any given day, we'd have a whole new industry in health care. The nurse for hire who'd accompany patients to the hospital, to make sure nobody killed them during their hospital stay.

I'd sign on for that job.

This discussion is so important to the world of not only nursing but health care in general. nursing and its tentacles seem to reach just about everywhere, and when one makes the comment that the fear of having a patient killed during a hospital stay is so paramount to warrant a body guard of sorts is the attitude heard across the country. And below the surface the nurse who says this is the one who gets killed. You've got no idea the dangers that await you when you talk like this.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arizo...1368987?ref=hl

I think bedside nursing has become less safe. From the ER point of view, we are less able to safely monitor patients, there is more friction with the inpatient nurses as they are too bogged down to receive patients. There is a cold war going on between some of our ER nurses and floor nurses, causing a big distraction and detracting from teamwork for the greater good.

That sounds about right. What's not so easy to realize is it is THIS that creates a lack of safety for patients in an already stressed environment :(

The least we can do is not make it worse than it already is!

It's really up to us to maintain and promote an environment where patients are not lost in the shuffle or neglected because the floor nurse hung up on the ER nurse or vice versa. That's childish and petty behavior, however common it is.

People act like this, no wonder management doesn't take the complaints seriously enough to evaluate nurse patient ratios. They figure if the RNs started behaving like professionals instead of spending their time b*tching and moaning and complaining, they wouldn't be so 'behind'.

I know full well this isn't how it really happens. The ratios are razor edge, bare minimum. The conditions at times are impossible. But no one will take us seriously when 'cold wars' go on, it is truly pathetic behavior that gets nursing staff as a whole painted black.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
I think this line of thinking is dangerous.

Money and the outcomes are connected. Especially in this era of pay for performance.

Are there greedy administrators ? Sure

Are there greedy nurses and doctors ? Sure

There are both greedy people, and people who want to do the right thing in this world.

If the administrators and evil money grubbers werent running a budget (somewhat*) effectively healthcare would be FAR more of a mess than it is. Especially with the way the economy has been in recent years.

In the economic model in the united states its not viable for organizations (hospitals included) to just spend money as they please without consequences.

That said there are ABSOLUTELY big wigs who are (probably) overpaid. But thats just because someone thinks theyll provide that kind of value to their organization

Bold and italics mine.

So if we (USA) spend the most $$ on health care in the modern industrialized world we should have the best outcomes, right? Wouldn't we expect that if $$ and outcomes are connected? Or wait, maybe in the capitalist healthcare world the relationship and connection could be inverse; the more money we spend the worse our outcomes?

Maybe you could help me out and explain your thinking while keeping in mind that according to the WHO we pay Ferrari prices for Yugo outcomes.

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