References advice, non nursing background

[ArrowRN, BSN, RN]

I applied to a job that requires me to list a couple of my managers for reference. My current manager is at the hospital where I work at as a PCT and they are unable to offer me a RN position because i'm new but listing them seems to be a conflict of interest and in any case I doubt they will give me a positive reference if they find out I'm wanting to leave.

As a new grad all my other references are non nursing related. My manager before school where i worked for 4 years that the company policy is the manger cannot provide a reference and everything is sent to an HR phone "robot" who can only say yes or no I'm hireable.

All the jobs I had before that were short term contact positions less than 1 year so those managers would not even remember me. I have to go back about 7-8 years and try to recontact a manager to see if I can list them or even further about 10 years to when I was an EMT. Questions is How far back can I go with these manager references? I got nursing school references and peers. What options do I have? Would a directed practice preceptor count? I would like to keep things current.

[ArrowRN, BSN, RN]

bump, anyone has advice on references?

[EKRN2014]

I would list your preceptor as a reference (that can actually be a great reference!). Also, you can use clinical instructors. I listed two of my clinical instructors who can speak positively about me clinically and personally. I also think a reference from HR from your last job is fine, as long as you have other references who can give a more detailed reference.

Oh, and here's my advise about your current manager. You don't have to list him/her as a reference for this job (it seems like from the above suggestions, you should have enough references). But, you should talk to him/her when you get close to a new job offer and before your new employer contacts your current employer to verify your employment (which in my experience they do when they're ready to make you an offer). I would state that you really like working there and understand that they can't promote you because you're too new. Use this as a reason as to why you are leaving and state that you want to give enough notice, etc. This way you can leave on good terms and hopefully use your current manager as a reference for future jobs!

[ArrowRN, BSN, RN]

those are good suggestions. I still keep contact with my EMT managers from 10 years ago but they all overseas. the emplyers specifically needs 4 refs of which 2 are managers, i wonder if a charge nurse counts?