What is the biggest frustration for nursing students?

  1. Just curious as nursing instructors what do find nursing students complain most about or find most challenging. Thanks.
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  3. by   scribblerpnp
    I would like to read these comments as well. Perhaps a Mod should move this thread to the nursing student forum? Just a thought since most nursing students probably don't haunt the educator sites.

    OP, I hope we don't get any flamer comments!

    Students, please try to be nice to us educators! I know there are some crummy proffs out there (there are some not-so-great students as well), but be constructive in your criticisms!
  4. by   sirI
    I think the OP meant for this to be from the educator's point of view and not the student's point of view, scribblerrn. At least, that's how I read this.....
  5. by   scribblerpnp
    Oops! After reading it again, Siri, I think you are right!
    I find that nursing students have complained to me about a couple of valid things.

    1. Some complain that I have graded something unfairly, though after I talk with them and explain the reasoning for loss of points, they usually understand a little better. And sometimes I was unfair or made a mistake, and that's OK too.

    2. Some have complained about how other faculty have treated them. I stay out of this and don't allow them to speak to me about other faculty. I encourage them to go to that faculty and work it out with them (it is what I would want done). But they are right sometimes, and I feel badly for them. Some faculty members are power hungry and lord it over the students. Crummy people are every where, but faculty and students.

    3. Some complain that there is too much to learn and not enough time (I agree)!

    4. The funniest complaint was a student who said, "Well, when you said I should do such and such, I didn't think you really meant it!"

    5. Some student complaints are complaints at all, just a student who wants to vent or who is frustrated and stressed and tired.


    I think the most challenging thing for nursing students is developing the ability to critically think and apply the knowledge. They are great at memorizing definitions, S/S, etc, but applying that info is a different matter. So hard for first year nursing students to get this down. It can be a difficult thing to teach as well!

    Here is something I would like to add:

    Things I Wish Students Would Do or Know:

    1. Follow directions, even if you think it is something minor and unimportant

    2. Be complete.

    3. I'm fine if you want to "argue for points" on that paper, but come prepared and have a good, solid defense.

    4. It isn't my fault if you fail, and it isn't because of me that you passed

    5. Yes, I really meant it when I said "XXXXXX"

    6. If you write a paper for a grade, use good grammar and spelling, and don't say, "I'm going to be a nurse, not an English teacher" when I take off points for poor grammar and spelling.

    7. Be prepared for class and for clinical

    8. If I think you have half-@**'d an assignment, you've lost my respect
    Last edit by scribblerpnp on Dec 10, '06
  6. by   puggymae
    One big frustration for students is that in clinical there isn't "enough of me" to go around for everybody. Alot of times there is a "line" waiting for me to check medications or do procedures.

    Our LPN program gets alot of students who were unsuccessful at the 3 local RN programs. It is a major turn off to me when the students says "That's not how I learned to do it at ________." Or "They did it so much better at ________." My reply? "Obviously you DID NOT learn how to do it at ______ or you would not be here." Or "If you like the way ______ school did it so much why don't you go back there?"
    I also dislike when they talk badly about some of the instructors at those schools as many of those teachers are my friends!
  7. by   fathernurse2b
    As a nursing student I can tell you what frustrates me. This is the first year of teaching for one of my instructors and I can tell. I study and read all the required work and I finished the semester with a B but everytime I would miss questions it came from her material. The distractors that she used on her test questions would include part of the correct answer. For instance to promote wound healing pick what should be included in the diet a)fish b)eggs c)citrus fruit d) tomatoes. She said the correct answer was citrus fruit. In out reading it said citruis fruit would promote collegen formation which would help a wound heal but her question wasn't worded that way. I think she had unfair questions all semester.
  8. by   mysterious_one
    quote=fathernurse;1971498]As a nursing student I can tell you what frustrates me. This is the first year of teaching for one of my instructors and I can tell. I study and read all the required work and I finished the semester with a B but everytime I would miss questions it came from her material. The distractors that she used on her test questions would include part of the correct answer. For instance to promote wound healing pick what should be included in the diet a)fish b)eggs c)citrus fruit d) tomatoes. She said the correct answer was citrus fruit. In out reading it said citruis fruit would promote collegen formation which would help a wound heal but her question wasn't worded that way. I think she had unfair questions all semester.[/quote]
    hmmmmmmmm,
    Last edit by mysterious_one on Dec 21, '06
  9. by   rainswhisper,RN
    As a nursing student, my biggest frustration has been inconsistency in the teaching.

    For example, in lecture we are told one thing then when we have precept, the professor tells us that she doesn't agree with what we were told in lecture and that it should be this other way....grrr...

    It is very frustrating ...how are we supposed to know what will be on the test (not to mention how will we remember the correct thing to do with a patient)? Before I started the nursing program, I had a 4.0, now I can't get above a B because of the inconsistencies, which do nothing but serve to confuse and frustrate.

    I am in the honor society but am in danger of falling below the standard simply because of the teaching inconsistencies----THAT is frustrating.
  10. by   rainswhisper,RN
    I want to add to my above post that I understand that things change and that there are different ways of doing things and that in the real world you have to learn and relearn.

    However, when you are teaching students and then are going to expect them to choose the one best answer on a test---do not teach them multiple best answers!

    Thank you for letting me put in my two cents!
  11. by   lovingpecola
    Students in my program (including myself) complain about teaching inconsistencies, travel to clinical placements (sometimes over an hour), not getting a break during two-hour lectures, and yes, some complain about that point or two on the exam, but not many.

    Hope that helps,
    LP

    OH! And we *hate* it when teachers READ power point slides to us (without further discussion)! It gives us an "I could of read it at home" attitude. Powerpoints should be brief, not paragraph form, and only have main points or illustrations! (not meant to benegative, only truthful and helpful)
  12. by   Race Mom
    As a student, I would like to say that it really upsets me when I have a "challenge" on a test question. No, I don't challenge everything I missed! But, I do study hard; pay attention in class; attend EVERY lecture, lab, clinical; and put my all into every paper I write. If I think a test question is challengable, I would appreciate if the instructor would hear me out. I come prepared with rationals, sources (like page numbers ready to go, lecture notes, etc). I've had some instructors that will listen, some that won't. I have only challenged 5 questions during the 1st year. The 1st two, the instructor said she sees my point, agrees to my answer, and says she will look into changing it for NEXT semester=no point for me. One other instructor I challenged 2 questions, she immediately replied in all caps, YOU WILL NOT GET CREDIT FOR THIS QUESTION!, but within a week of each challenge, she asked other faculty for their answer, and other students, and credit was given on each question. The last one I challenged (with the same teacher, different semester), I was not given any credit because I went too into depth with my fill in the blank answer. Instead of putting "teaching" (for what is in the scope for an RN in mental health) I put "showing movies to the client to help with clarification of the mental disorder- or something along those lines. This was info she DID tell us to do. I got no credit, even though it was right (just more in depth, but was a teaching intervention), and of course, missed my A by 1/2 point (question was worth 5pts.). We are all human, and we all can make mistakes. That's ok. Please, if your student is prepared to challenge, listen to them. If the student isn't right, well...we really need to understand what is being taught, so don't just blow us off with a NO, show us where our thinking is messed up. I want to learn, not just pass with my test score.
  13. by   Roseyposey
    OH! And we *hate* it when teachers READ power point slides to us (without further discussion)! It gives us an "I could of read it at home" attitude. Powerpoints should be brief, not paragraph form, and only have main points or illustrations! (not meant to benegative, only truthful and helpful)[/quote]
  14. by   06lpngrad
    My biggest frustration as a student was all the complaining from other students. I'm of the opinion that when you are required to do something, just do it. It was frustrating as one of the earlier instructors posted, that there is not enough of the instructor to go around. At the school I attended we had a book of procedures given to us when we started clinicals and all procedures had to be successfully performed (and some more than once. ex. 3 successful cath. insertions) before we could graduate. It was very frustrating when you would have a procedure and the instructor could not come b/c she was with another student and some of the procedures were very hard to come by. But all in all, my time in school was a very pleasant experience.

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